Can't set sun to time before noon

Hi
There is an issue with the data time panel in Rhino 8 on Windows.
int only allows me to set times in the afternoon.
This is not an issue on Mac.

Version : 8.5.24072.13001, 2024-03-12

hi @Johan_Lund_Pedersen I could not repeat that issue here.
pls run _SystemInfo in Rhino and post back the results.

Hi @Gijs

Yes. when I tap in number or use the arrow keys it jumps to afternoon.

Rhino 8 SR5 2024-3-12 (Rhino 8, 8.5.24072.13001, Git hash:master @ e3530849b75f00b2b977766a567ae29b055837e9)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-03-12
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.17

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 3-12-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.86
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-12-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5186
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\jlp\AppData\Local\Programs\Enscape\Bin64\Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin.dll “Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin” 0.0.23328.1419
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V7\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Hi Johan - please try disabling VRay in Options > Plug-ins page, then close and re-open Rhino - does the problem still show up?

-Pascal

I thought it could have to do with different time format (I had time set to AM/PM format) but after setting it to 24 hour format, I still cannot reproduce.

Hi @pascal @Gijs

I tried disabling Vray and Escaped. Still the same issue.

Rhino 8 SR5 2024-3-12 (Rhino 8, 8.5.24072.13001, Git hash:master @ e3530849b75f00b2b977766a567ae29b055837e9)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-03-12
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.17

Computer platform: DESKTOP (Hosting Remote Desktop session)

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display: Microsoft Remote Display Adapter (Microsoft) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 6-21-2006 (M-D-Y).
> Remote Desktop display device with 16 connection(s)
- Windows Main Display using connection #0
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 3-12-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.86
> Accelerated graphics device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-12-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5186
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.5.24072.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

hi @Johan_Lund_Pedersen I tried reproducing this also on a machine running win 10 and in 8.5, but still cannot reproduce. It almost looks as if it forces your system to use PM times. Can you try changing your regional settings to display times in 12 hour AM/PM format and see if the problem persists?

Hi Gijs

This solves the issue.
I changed my format from Denmark to English(US) in the control panel.

good to hear that solves it.
I could reproduce:
RH-81355 Can’t set sun time to morning with Danish region settings

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For info, this works fine with Norwegian time settings.
Windows 11, Rhino 8.5.

(In case somebody reads this and wonders why this might be relevant:
Norway and Denmark are both Scandinavian countries so timestamps are of the same format as far as I know. So something might have changed between Windows 10 and 11)

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We’re not so familiar with the sun here in Seattle, so we frequently make mistakes.

-Pascal

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