Block Manager List Isn't Alphabetized

After reading through some of the forum posts, I’m under the impression that in Rhino 7, the list of blocks in block manager should be alphabetized, but mine however are being listed in the random order they were added to the file. This is in Rhino for Mac - are they supposed to be sorted alphabetically in the Mac version, or is that only a feature of the windows version?

Thank you for any help on this

Hi @theresa,

Yep, this is on the to-do list.

https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-59136

– Dale

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Hi @dale,

Thanks for letting me know, that would be a very helpful update.

Hi @dale,

Please ani update on this topic? Sorting Blocks is crutial when working in architecture with large number of blocks. It comes even more complex with xrefed files. Sorting in folders like in layer toolbar would be really appreciated.

Many thanks!

Tom

Hi Tom -

RH-59136 is currently on the 8.x list.
The block manager is actively being worked on but it doesn’t look like sorting is a feature that is thought to be in the first versions of Rhino 8 when that gets released.
In the current WIP, you can filter the list of blocks by name…
-wim

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It will be nice to see the list in an alphabetical order. Sometimes I have more than 200 blocks, and is not easy to find it. Many thanks

Hi Affonso -

The current state in Rhino 8 is that the list is always sorted in either ascending or descending alphabetical order.
-wim

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Dear Wim, TKS TO TRY TO HELP, BUT… HOW TO GET THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER? It is not working for me, also to my 80 students. See the image I attached
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Affonso Orciuoli

Hi Affonso -

From that picture, it looks like you might be running an older version. This is how that looks on my end:
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Please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste the result here.
-wim

Rhino 8 SR3 2024-1-9 (Rhino 8, 8.3.24009.15001, Git hash:master @ 3541fa287a013b0f17849f0740f1e43a44031bfc)
License type: Not For Resale Lab, build 2024-01-09
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 15Gb)
.NET Framework 4.8.9181.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 2-20-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 528.66
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 2-20-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 528.66
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
AMD Radeon™ Graphics (AMD) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 1-19-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 5 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 2-20-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.2866
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8188 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.2.1.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCAM 2023 for R8\RhinoArt1FileExporter For Rhino8.0.rhp “RhinoArt1FileExporter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCAM 2023 for R8\RhinoCAM 2023 For Rhino8.0.rhp “RhinoCAM 2023 - The cutting edge CAM plug-in for Rhino 8.0 from MecSoft Corporation”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Users\Affonso\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\PanelingTools\2021.3.2.446\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Can you please state the version number from which Blocks should be in alphabetic order again in Rhino 8?

I have the same issue on Version 8 SR3 (8.3.24009.15001, 2024-01-09), which it looks like it’s the same as @RBFD

It’s only 20 days old?

Why has the order of blocks, which has been alphabetic in previous versions of Rhino for as long as I can remember, been changed at all? And if it has, where is the “sort by” button?

I use scripts to generate block nomenclature, as it’s very important for my work. This order was fine in Rhino 7, and is a mess in Rhino 8:
image

RH-77899 BlockManager: Added column headers and allows sorting list
The fix for this issue will be in 8.5.
-wim

Thank you. Relieved to hear this regression is addressed.

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