I considered the MSI too, but went for the razor edge 15 with an rtx2070, but didnāt like the green logo on top so I bought a dBrand pure black sticker to the entire top and it turned out very sleek and nice IMO.
It looks like this (not my picture) and I sat the keyboard to an orange hue.
The cooling is great when you consider the massive hardware that is inside it, itās completely silent when web browsing and writing emails / word docs and then revs up the fans to about a macbook noice level (very good in other words). Itās built like a mac and the screen is great (Went for the fullHD, not the 4K, since for me this is an on the road/VR/Presentation machine and not my main work horse).
The only thing I dislike is the keyboard. Itās great to type on, but the key layout is a bit odd for coding. Musle memory donāt like keys that are arranged. This is mainly the because of the FN key and the arrow keys. AND the backlighting doesnāt light up the secondary key functions, so fidning all those #%Ā¤!Ā§ letters is difficult when itās dim light in the room. But I still love it. Itās thin and robust and looks good, but a bit pricey.
Oh, and the keys and the surface needs to be wiped quite frequently as finger prints stands out quite a bit.
I bought mine in Norway and got the last one with the 8750h processor since it is only 5% less powerfull than the 9750h, so I got it cheaper. What the price is in your country you will have to check.
I only got the RTX to be future proof since I use it with VR, if not I would have gone for the 1660 I think.
And I got the 256GB SSD but have ordered a 512 to replace that. (I wanted a usb ssd to store stuff so I will put the āoldā one in an enclosure for that) And I went with stock 16GB ram.
I use it for modelling too, but that drains the battery quickly of course, so will it do on all laptops since both the cpu and the gpu is used much.
Interesting to read through this thread because Iām in the same boat. I recently stumbled upon an ad for the LG Gram and have been contemplating it as my next rhino laptop. I have my workhorse tower in my office, I just use my laptop to get some modeling done on the road and I hate how heavy my current set up is (6 pounds!). 15.6ā display, 16gb ram, core I-7, 2.5lbs and under $2,000. Anyone have any advice on this?
Hi Jess.
Thatās a nice looking machine, but you will probably not be happy with the Intel UHD 620 graphics if your models are complex or if you need rendered mode. (Not talking about raytraced mode, just ordinary rendered)
hej @bodia27,
I am with @Brenda on this one. In terms of performance/cooling I think P53/P73 is a good choice as the body allows for enough space inside the laptop in order not to make too many compromises when the workload on the machine is persistant. Plus it has all the ports that you may want. I have bought a P51 (Xeon, Quadro and 4k, 500GB SDD and a 1 TB HDD) at the time and I very happy with it. Actually I also got it for the sturdyness and most of all for the ability that you can replace stuff. Thereās a maintenance manual that comes along with it. So if you want to upgrade RAM or put in a larger/faster drive for instance there is no problem. There are actually screws on the machine so itās not glued. Iāve openened it several times since and itās easy to do.
But then again it really depends on the use case. You mention you donāt want it to be bulky? Do you mean heavy or actually sleek? My machine is indeed not super light, but it is my main computer for that matter and I want to be able to work wherever I need to. (Sometimes this also is in a messy workshop with tools or a train or what have you) Hence also sturdy > slim in my case. Design-wise the Thinkpad is a classic, I think. Itās not too shiny or polished, but the black body is iconic
But if you donāt do a lot of rendering or complex GH definitions you may not even need to max out on specs for Rhino and CAD alone and if you are more comfortable with a lighter one, itās probably going to do the job.
When i meant sleak i meant that looks like macbook/razer blade/msi. I ended up getting Lenovo P1 that i mentioned earlier for $1600 (used). Good deal no?
Hi Holo,
I do packaging design so Iām designing lots of bottles and flexible pouches (curve network is my friend!) Mostly I am responsible for the models and my coworker does the renderings (Mostlyā¦)
What exactly will happen that will be undersireable. Will is be slow to rotate and save, or have jagged edges? Also, is it possible to upgrade a graphics card on a laptop or is it pretty much you get what you get and thats that? I appreciate your advice!
Well I do need a machine that models more complex this including residential houses, and renders them as well, but its not full time thing yet, with a lot of design and Photoshop/Premiere Pro as well. P1 seems like a good compromise with the new t2000 card and 32gb RAM? Am i correct on it? P53 or P73 are a bit too bulky for me.
Hi Jess, my best advice is that you install the Rhino evaluation on some friends laptop with an intel card and try it out with your files.
Typical issues are not handling big or many bitmap textures due to vram limitations, bad ghosted quality and performance, overall rendered performance etc. Aa can also be an issue, but should not.
Maybe itās good enough for you.
You can not upgrade a laptop GPU (graphiccard) but some models support eGPU if you wanāt to fiddle with an extra box with fans and a custom graphiccard on your desk. (Mainly ment as a solution for gamers)
If you can share a typical file here then maybe someone with an integrated intel gpu can test it out for you
People requesting āthe best laptopā for Rhino need to be clear on what they are looking for. A heavy laptop is a 10 lbs system, 4 - 6 lbs should be considered thin and light since these machines will generally be running a 200 W power supply and you just need a certain amount of mass to handle that kind of power/heat. People complaining of loud fans need to understand that there is either damage to the notebook or you are pushing the system hard and it is a simple equation relating to very small pipes and a requirement to dissipate a bunch of heat. Laptops that stay quite and cool when pushed hard are just throttling the processor or video card performance. When it comes to Quadro vs GeForce (they are both labeled RTX) you just need to decide if certified graphics is a requirement for your application (and you are willing to pay for it) as they both support OpenGL. It doesnāt seem like Rhino does any of the certified graphics driver stuff so if you are trying to go less expensive, GeForce is the way to go as it is generally better performance for the money. That being said you will find better balanced laptops (weight to performance) running Quadro cards.
lol shoulda looked at this thread before I posted ;D still pretty confused though - need to get something I can order onlineā¦
I need to be able to run Rhino and Adobe products concurrently, and Iām about to get serious with Grasshopper, so any recommendations? What Iām getting based on what youāre saying is
GeForce cards are good
Lenovo p53 or 73 if I donāt mind the bulk
razor edge 15 with an rtx2070 MSI P65 Creator-1084 15.6" 4K Laptop Intel Core i7-9750H, GeForce RTX 2060, 32GB ThinkPad P1 Gen 2 Workstation 4K IPS i7-9750H, T2000,32G RAM ?
Dell Precision 75XXā¦pricey but a workhorse
Asus Zephyrus-M.
What do you guys think of this one/? MSI GL75 9SDK-057 17.3" FHD 120Hz Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7-9750H, NVIDIA GTX 1660Ti, 16GB, 512GB NVMe SSD, Win 10
FYI I did end up getting that Thinkpad. havent installed any apps on it yet just setting up Win10 to my liking but damn, that machine is sexy af! Mostly runs quiet too
Iāve just got a new laptop with RTX 2060. Mainly going to be using Rhino and Blender. Got a a massive scare finding that Blender didnāt support RTX cards, but does now. Then the much older 1080ti card kept popping up as recommended.
Still have no idea if I wouldāve been better off with something like Quadro P3200. I never found any real definitive answer on what kind of card is better for modelling / rendering, or if that is where the dividing line between GeForce and Quadro is.
1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
I got the above. My budget was Ā£1500 and this fell inside that. Main thing Iād established was might as well get something with capability for 32GB RAM.
QUickly became apparent I could easily nudge a spec up on many thing, but often to the tune of 3-400 pounds. Not sure if Iād see it - I wonāt be gaming much, this will be for work.
Hi all, I run Rhino from R2 and I donāt understand why you look at the highest perf laptop and expensive.If youāre not using raytracing all day you can run Rhino easily on middle price laptop.I 'm used to work on heavy 3dm and for having used geforce and quadro I suggest to forget about quadro cards , way too expensive, geforce consummer cards are very very powerfull nowdays and cheaper.
Donāt believe benchs the difference is not enough that you could see
I do have a similar notebook setup as Jonathan (Dell G5), I wanted a laptop ready to do VR as well. Canāt recommend it though. Heating and noise is really annoying, but its cool to use my VR headset in the Garden. For Rhino, much lesser specs are totally okay, although it also depends on the jobā¦
