@rajaa I think we need a tutorial explain the full functionality of integrated section tools in rhino 8.
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That would change how the flow is designed. If you are looking into extracting a static copy of your drawings, then you can use NestedClippingDrawing command, and the output will be in the current layer.
Agree.
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Hi @rajaa .
I believe, this is a bug, right? (File is attached)
Those curves should be Hidden as well, to my understanding.
We still have a solid beyond the section. It’s not a hole.
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Yes, this looks like a bug. Filed… Thanks
Also, please feel free to create a new thread for bugs and discussions. This thread has become too long.
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Hi, my name is Daniele, thisi is my question: is it possible to create projections that also consider the color of the background lines?
The red cube is intersected by the SEC and in the drawing it appears red, but the green cube which is in the background appears black in the drawing, I would like everything to appear with its own color. Is there a setting to do this or does the feature still need to be implemented?
Hi,
tried to read all above, but it is quite a lot. Maybe I’m repeating a request.
A great help would be to have a function to switch all Sections on/off with a simple command… Sections are often spread out over different Layers, on/off Layer states etc … So they can be hard to find. Often the Section graphics are irritating while working, so they are hidden (but the section is active).
Please implement a function to turn all sections on/off.
Thanks
/Erik
Maybe a clever person could script this
Of course. But it’s so useful for everyone it should be included in the software from the beginning.
I’m assuming you are requesting a command to turn off layer visibility of the Clipping Drawings? Would that be turned off in modeling, layout or both spaces? Do you see that as a command? Should there is a control over which Sections to turn on/off, or just a global control for all?
Dear Rajaa,
thanks for writing to me.
First - greatly thankful for the clipping plane cut geometry now being clickable! The sections were almost useless in the last version.
I’m not 100% sure that I understand what you are suggesting.
I’m an architect and in other tools that we use the section functionality is often integrated into the UI directly. A section can be created instantly by pulling something of the edge of the display - creating an instant section of whatever is on the screen. And then remove it instantly again, just by disabling “sections”.
I understand that Rhino is (partly) directed to another type of user - more technical than architects are normally.
So to make this clear to you I will sketch a scenario.
Presume I have created different sections throughout the project I’m working on. These are spread out on different Layers. Now - I don’t like the section markers - as they created unnecessary clutter. So the section markers are hidden (the section marker Layer is hidden).
Now imagine I need to see the full geometry. I have to find/identify the layer where the section is. Then turn the Layer on. Then click that section marker. Then write “disableClippingPlane” or unmark the checkbox in the. And when I’m done I have to revert that process. (I see this can be slightly reduced, but still …)
So what I’m looking for is a tool that disables all clipping/sections simultaneously disregarding whatever Layer / State they’re on. I would rather not “touch” the section state(s) but rather just do a full “off” on all of them. Meaning when the user switches sections on/off nothing happens to their settings. So I would call it a “Global Control”. It could be a command + an UI button that switches between on and off.
Was this clear enough ? If not please let me know.
Thanks
/Erik
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@Eugen @archist97 and everyone who gave feedback about the clipping-drawing location. Please try Rhino 8.3 RC1 to test the fix of this issue.
Summary of changes:
- Drawings do not change location when add new objects or move the clipping plane within its plane.
- Removed the “Grip” option from ClippingDrawings and EditClippingDrawings commands. The “Grip” is now always set to the center of the sectioned objects. This was necessary to maintain consistent location.
- Consistent location of drawings with model changes should also work across sessions.
- Commands updated are ClippingDrawings and EditClippingDrawings. Please help test it and let us know if you notice any bug related to consistent location of drawings. Thank you.
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I am looking into this bug and it appears that this happens because your boxes are overlapping. That is the top face of each box is co-planar with the bottom face of the box on top of it. If you separate the boxes slightly, then you get the result you expected. I don’t see this as a bug.
Hi Rajaa,
I have been testing out the Clippingplane in combination with the ClippingDrawings and I have two questions.
- While useing the ClippingDrawing with AddBackground activated I get background lines but also hidden lines in the visible layer of the clippingplane. If you look at my example image shouldn’t the window lined be in the hidden layer?
- When drafting details for architecture lines often have lineweights. See example:
Would it be possible to use the Boundary function in the Section Style to have the lineweights of the model transfer directly to the section lineweights of the ClippingDrawing. Or is there already another way to do this?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi @Jordy1
Those are not hidden lines unless you think of the clipping plane to have solid surface, but I can see how this can be confusing. If you run Make2D, you will notice same lines visible. There is a request to make these lines hidden. See here…
That sounds reasonable. Would you use the SectionStyle line weight and color over the “source object” properties?
Hi Rajaa, thanks for the quick reply.
I see there is a request already voor the Background lines behind the section plane, this was what I was looking for. If they show up in the layer ClippingPlane_00Hidden instead of Clipping Plane_00Visible it would solve everything as this will make it easy to turn them on or off. I will patiently await the update.
As for the lineweights. The issue I am having right now is that when I change something and update or move the section plane all the lines get reset. They all seem to end up in the ClippingPlane_00Curve layer (with the same lineweight). So, the only option would be to reselect all the different lines and reapply all the different lineweights by categorizing them into different layers every time you refresh the section. If the lineweights get taken directly from the model no extra adjustments are needed while refreshing or adding extra section drawings.
As an example, I made a new layer “ClippingPlane_00Curve-Copy” and added the line I wanted to be printed thicker by adjustong the lineweight from 0.5 to 2. This worked.
But, if I move a wall in my model and run the command “UpdateClippingDrawings” all the lines get reset and added to the original “ClippingPlane_00Curve” layer and I have to reapply the lineweights by selecting all the different lines and adding them to another layer. With large models this can be a tedious task.
I hope it is clear this way.
What if you change the linewidth of the “ClippingPlane_00Curve” layer (without copying). Does that work with updates?
Changing the linewidth from the original layer allows you to make changes and maintain the linewidth after updating (see drawing 1 > drawing 2). The only issue is you can not selectively choose one part of your section to have thicker linewidth as seen in drawing 3.
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I agree. Added a request to take linewidth and color of section curves from the object SectionStyle here…
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Great, thanks a lot!
I want to add that I really like the new update of Rhino and especially this tool.