Rhino 8 selectionfilter terrible problems and differences with rhino 7

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Hello! I am having a serious issue with whino 8 and I am surprised I can find anyone who faced this.
In rhino 7, you could toggle the selectionfilter just using the command. The visibility of the window also toggled the filter. In rhino 8 there is NO WAY of toggling the filter via command because it only shows and hides the window leaving the filter in the same state. To make things worse there is no command to enable and disable the filter added. selectionfiltertoggle does not do this.

Also, there is an annoying option that disables the selection filters after a few failed selection attempts and it cannot be disabled (as far as I know). It is pretty annoying. There is no information in the documentation about these changes.

Thanks, I hope this can be fixed in the future.

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That is funny I’d noticed the opposite, I almost never want to use the dumb feature and kept accidentally turning it on and dug into the shortcuts to clear out anything related to it, go away go away go away…

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I used it as a simple way to toggle the selection filter for subd control points with a single hotkey. It is a pretty basic part of my workflow. I agree that it was not elegant that the visibility of the window was linked to the state of the filter, but if they removed that they should have added a new command that turns it off and on separately from the visibility of the selection filter.

It is bad that a functionality as basic as the selection filter now has no command associated with it, and the command called selectionfillter is just something that should be called selectionfiltervisibility or something like that because it does nothing related to selection filtering now, and the commands for turning on specific filters are very limited (why didn’t they at least add commands for every possible filter?)

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@Edward_Ill Welcome to the forum!

You may be looking for the command SelectionFilterToggle or any of the other commands that are related

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Please update to the latest Rhino 8 service release - it may be that this is not working correctly in the version you are using.

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Hi, I have the latest version and selectionfiltertoggle cycles between many filters (right now it is actually doing nothing for me, it was working before). There is almost no documentation about it so I am not sure if I am not understanding the command. Thanks

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Hi Edward Ill -

The SelectionFilter command, when run that way, only allows you to set the visibility state of the selection filter dialog. To toggle the enable/disable state of the filters, you’ll need to run:

-SelectionFilter DisableFilter Enter

From the help page:

  • Selection filters will be automatically disabled after four failed picks.

-wim

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Hi! Thank you. I have been able to set up a hotkey that toggles the control points selection filtering like this:

“-SelectionFilter n enter”

So the main issue of the topic is solved. As a side, minor issue, I would be interested in knowing if the automatic disabling can be adjusted in the settings. Thanks!

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Hi Edward Ill -

I guess my question would be, why are you failing a correct pick four times in a row?

Background: The auto-disabling is a bit of a band-aid since Rhino doesn’t clearly tell the user that it’s in a special filter mode which the user has forgotten they had put Rhino in. If we allow to disable the auto-disabling, we’ll just get back to the situation where users have forgotten they have disabled it and are very frustrated that they can’t select an object. The solution here isn’t disabling the auto-disabling, but finding a way to inform the user that Rhino is in a mode.
-wim