Osnap toolbar disabled problem

Rhino Rhino for Windows
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I’m trying to use the Persistent On Surface Osnap but when I hold the Ctrl key down to make the Osnap options appear, they’re all greyed out and I cannot do anything with them. I tried resizing the Osnap panel, undocking it, etc. but those hidden options are always disabled. I also tried them in different models but that doesn’t seem to make a difference.

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Is there anything I need to do to make them enabled or are they only for specific situations?

Output from SystemInfo:

Rhino 7 SR13 2021-12-14 (Rhino 7, 7.13.21348.13001, Git hash:master @ 7696723f74a63695b3c372a89110c0ca8c78b890)
License type: Commercial, build 2021-12-14
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10.0.19044 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 7-7-2021 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 471.35
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-1-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device. Laptop lid is probably closed

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-7-2021
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7135
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

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Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
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C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
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C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
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Hello - these can be set only when Rhino is actively prompting for a point - inside a command.

-Pascal

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Thank you Pascal - I see now, it does work. I’d suggest updating the Osnap UI - it’s very confusing how it looks, even when an item is selected. I tried before multiple times with the Points command and I thought the options were disabled.

It may also be useful to have an obvious button (in addition to the Ctrl key) to switch to the hidden view - I had no idea these existed even though I’ve been using Rhino for some years now.

Thank you again and happy new year!