MSI Prestige A16

Rhino Windows Hardware
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I just bought a new laptop which I intend to run Rhino as well as V-ray on. I bought an MSI Prestige A16 laptop, which has a Radeon 880M iGPU. I am aware that I should have a dedicated GPU for optimal performance, and only realized after buying that the 880M is an integrated graphics card. The laptop has 32 GB of 7500 MHz RAM and an AMD Ryzen AI 9 processor. Will it be possible to continue using this computer, or will I have to return it and buy a new one?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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return it while you still can, I recommend getting a dedicated NVidia graphics card, we see many more issues with Radeon than with NVidia drivers.

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I donā€™t disagree with your statement, formally.

However, interestingly I have had more problems with my RTX 40 Series card drivers than even my Intel Arc A770. I actually stopped updating at the 566 drivers, just so Nvidia didnā€™t bork my cards.

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Thatā€™s interesting, I have had no propblems whatsoever on our machines. What kind of ā€˜borkingā€™ are you talking about?

We use the Studio drivers on all the systems ofcourse.

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Mostly it was intermittent screen flickering.

Somewhere here there is a story of my Intel A770 experience, where I kept getting viewport issues with Rhino. It partially motivated my change to my current pair of RTX cards. However, the issue actually got worse if anything, and Rhino kept crashing out with particular combinations of activity. Normally it was a curvature analysis in combination with something else, like MatchSrf.

I was hopeful that OneAPI would come to Rhino, so I could use the Intel card, but that didnā€™t happen. It doesnā€™t really matter, given I use bella most of the time now.

It was mostly very frustrating as it happened after specific MatchSrf sequences, which inevitably meant I lost all of my continuity work.

I think it is just a ā€œmeā€ problem. But I do use the gaming drivers. I am not convinced that Nvidia care so much about Rhino, that it is on thier bleeding edge release every time. I could be wrong. So I just held my drivers at 566 before they got any worse. :slight_smile:

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That is a strong position.

Vray leverages CUDA (thus supporting the Nvidia cartel instead of using existing open libraries), so for that matter, an AMD/Intel GPU canā€™t be used by Vray.

But Rhino needs an ā€œOpenGL 4.5 capable video cardā€ ā€¦ Iā€™m using AMD GPUs since ever and the only tiny problems are from Rhino WIP versions where new display pipelines are being worked, and the problems are on Nvidia cards too (seeing from the forum).

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VRay also uses RTX. My personal recommendation doesnā€™t mean McNeel takes a strong position against AMD, but it is a fact that historically there are more issues with AMD OpenGL drivers. If I were to shop for a new system Iā€™d still go for an NVidia based system.