I’m on a iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) Monterey 12.6.3 i’ve started to notice the curves disappearing when i zoom in , i’ve freshly installed rhino with no change. see attached video.
Hi Jon -
Please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste the result here.
-wim
this should happen in perspective views only, because view target point gets out of sight.
have you tried zoom - selection?
Rhino 7 SR27 2023-2-1 (Rhino 7, 7.27.23032.13002, Git hash:master @ 4a0030c0d354560df03764f4f49ecc5d119e5118)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-02-01
License details: Cloud Zoo
Apple macOS Version 12.6.3 (Build 21G419) (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: iMac18,3
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
AMD Radeon Pro 580 OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.8.101)
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580
Displays: iMac (217dpi 2x), HP 27f (82dpi 1x)
Graphics processors
Radeon Pro 580 (8 GB)
iMac (2560 x 1440)
HP 27f (1920 x 1080 @ 60.00Hz)
USB devices
Realtek: USB 10/100/1000 LAN
Samsung M3 Portable: Samsung M3 Portable
VIA Labs, Inc.: USB2.0 Hub
Broadcom Corp.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Hewlett-Packard: HP LaserJet M402n
Apple Inc.: Apple MagSafe Charger
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
com.parallels.kext.hypervisor (15.1.5 47309) E58BB0E4-8BF0-3734-AFEB-45B878C474C3
com.parallels.kext.netbridge (15.1.5 47309) 87C1BA53-76C0-360B-AE9D-FF2471FA4915
com.parallels.kext.vnic (15.1.5 47309) E7D58CD0-47AE-36DF-8289-3E550B76CCCB
com.parallels.kext.usbconnect (15.1.5 47309) B61070B1-5096-3B17-ADA1-D0EB011D4AB1
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNetwork.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomePubSub.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomeStreams.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/DatasmithRhino7.rhp/DatasmithFacadeCSharp.dylib
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot10Rhino7Plugin.rhp/libkeyshot_rhino_plugin.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 4.27.2.0
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot10Rhino7Plugin.rhp “KeyShot10RhinoPlugin” 1.2.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.27.23032.1002
Thanks for the SystemInfo, Jon.
I’m not seeing such behavior on my older MacBook Air running the same version of macOS. Could you disable the 3rd party plug-ins, restart Rhino, and see if that makes a difference?
-wim
This also happens to me on a MacBook Pro 16-inch 2019 model with Rhino 7.28.23058.03002, 2023-02-27. No 3rd party plugins installed.
Hi @wim
Do you have any suggestion to make this line disappearing stop when zooming?
Are you addressing it in an update?
If you need more info regarding diagnostics please let me know.
Hej Troels -
The complete SystemInfo data would be the very first step.
As far as addressing display issues on Mac hardware in updates is concerned, that’s a significant part of what Rhino 8 is all about. Have you tried the WIP?
-wim
Here is the System Info. I’m not able to use Rhino 8 because I use it professionally so I need the stability of the Rhino 7 and the ability to exchange Rhino 7 files with my colleagues.
I hope that this can be resolved in some way. It is only for the last two months approx that this has been an issue
Rhino 7 SR28 2023-2-27 (Rhino 7, 7.28.23058.03002, Git hash:master @ 4ffc5d7156fbccf2a5d9fcc80e522b3851bc7f6c)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-02-27
License details: Cloud Zoo
Apple macOS Version 13.2.1 (Build 22D68) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,1
Language: da-DK (MacOS default)
AMD Radeon Pro 5300M OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.9.51)
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Anti-alias mode: 2x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 4080 MB
Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 5300M
Displays: LED Cinema Display (94dpi 1x), Color LCD (264dpi 2x)
Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 5300M (4 GB)
Color LCD (1792 x 1120 @ 59.00Hz)
LED Cinema Display (1920 x 1200)
USB devices
Apple Inc.: Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc.: Apple LED Cinema Display
Apple Inc.: Display iSight
Apple Inc.: Display Audio
Apple: composite_device
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNetwork.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomePubSub.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomeStreams.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libIex.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libHalf.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libAlembic.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libosdCPU.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libImath.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libIlmThread.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libIexMath.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libtbb.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libMaterialXCore.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libMaterialXFormat.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftExtensionFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftExtensionKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftWebKit.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.28.23058.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.28.23058.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 7.28.23058.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.28.23058.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.28.23058.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.28.23058.3002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.28.23058.1002
Hej Troels -
That sounds a bit like that might coincide with a macOS update. I see that you are running macOS Ventura 13.2.1. Display issues on Macs are typically fixed (but also caused) by OS updates. Do you, perhaps, have a TimeMachine backup point from before updating to Ventura? Alternatively, you could try the current 13.3.1 version. The problem with moving forward is that Apple has depreciated OpenGL and you might have more luck with an older version.
-wim
Hej Wim
Thanks for the suggestions. I don’t have a TimeMachine backup of an older version unfortunately but I upgraded to macOS 13.3.1 and it looks like it partially solved the issue. It still happens but not as much anymore.