Rhino3dmIO, openNURBS Support for SubD to Brep, Nurbs, or Mesh?

archinate1 · September 9, 2020, 2:08pm

Hello,
I am working on a tool that reads Rhino SubD objects with Rhino3dmIO. I want to support Rhino’s new SubD object type however I don’t see that Rhino3dmIO exposes adequate methods for reading a SubD as either a Brep or Nurbs represenation.

Furthermore, I don’t see that there is a way to get a render mesh or other mesh from a SubD using OpenNURBs. For example, with a Brep, I am able to get the face meshes using a GetMesh() method - I can’t seem to find a comparable way to get this geometry for SubDs. This would seem critical if you were to make a viewer or reader that could support SubD objects.

I see that Rhinocommon exposes a SubD.ToBrep() method - will these methods be exposed in Rhino3dmIO?

Best,
-Nate

stevebaer · September 10, 2020, 4:28am

Hey Nate,
We definitely won’t be providing the ToBrep() function in Rhino3dm. That type of functionality will be available through compute.

We’re discussing internally how to help with respect to getting meshes from SubD instances. If you need this immediately, I would recommend grabbing an off the shelf Catmull-Clark library for generating meshes from the SubD control nets you get out of Rhino3dm so you don’t have to wait for us.

stevebaer · September 10, 2020, 10:35pm

We’re not going to give away our mesher for SubD that gets you a tight limit surface mesh, but we do give away what might be considered good enough. There are two OpenNURBS functions that you can use to get a mesh.

bool ON_SubD::GlobalSubdivide(unsigned int count);
ON_Mesh* ON_SubD::GetControlNetMesh(ON_Mesh* mesh, ON_SubDGetControlNetMeshPriority priority) const;

You can subdivide an ON_SubD instance to a desired level and get the control net mesh for visualization.

This is available in OpenNURBS today. I’m working on adding this to our new rhino3dm.net, rhino3dm.py, and rhino3dm.js libraries right now.

stevebaer · September 12, 2020, 4:41pm

@archinate1 I just released new versions of rhino3dm.py and rhino3dm.js last night that support subdivide and getControlNetMesh

Here’s an example of how this can be used in javascript to create a mesh from a SubD

github.com

mcneel/rview/blob/master/src/SceneUtilities.js#L318


  dotDiv.style.background = `rgba(${color.r},${color.g},${color.b},${color.a})`
  dotDiv.textContent = geometry.text
  let dot = new CSS2DObject(dotDiv)
  let location = geometry.point
  dot.position.set(location[0], location[1], location[2])
  objectsToAdd.push([dot, null])
  break
case rhino3dm.ObjectType.Hatch:
  console.warn('TODO: Implement hatch')
  break
case rhino3dm.ObjectType.SubD:
  {
    // We can do something smarter in the future. For now just
    // make a level 3 mesh
    // let wiremesh = rhino3dm.Mesh.createFromSubDControlNet(geometry)
    geometry.subdivide(3)
    let mesh = rhino3dm.Mesh.createFromSubDControlNet(geometry)
    let materialId = getMaterialId(doc, attributes)
    let threeMesh = this.meshToThreejs(mesh, color, materialId)
    objectsToAdd.push([threeMesh, geometry.getBoundingBox()])
    mesh.delete()

Rhino3dmIO should have this feature on nuget after next week’s WIP release. I’m working on the .NET bindings for rhino3dm which is what we will eventually be switching to, but need to figure out the proper way to package things for nuget on all of the different platforms we are trying to support.

archinate1 · September 13, 2020, 3:56pm

Awesome! This will be very helpful.

scottd · September 13, 2020, 4:35pm

@archinate1- did you get a chance to test the new ToNurbs in Rhino?

SubD Ship Hull Modeling

I know it doesn’t fix your specific request here, but it does really change what is possible for freeform workflows for architects. Mesh > Quadremesh > subd > ToNurbs packed.

archinate1 · September 22, 2020, 4:13pm

Hi @stevebaer,
I am trying this out now with Rhino3dmIO - It looks like the new methods are exposed but I am having a bit of trouble finding my Rhino object containing the SubD in the Rhino file’s File3DMObjectTable like Breps, Extrusions, etc? In Rhino, have a SubD object created. When I retrieve the File3DMObjectTable from File3dm.Objects, SubDs are not returned.

Is a SubD not wrapped up in a File3DMObject like other objects? If not, how can I retrieve it in the file?

This is tested with 7.0.20259.15365-wip NuGet package.

dale · September 23, 2020, 12:04am

Hi @archinate1,

The attached seem to to work. What are we missing?

TestRead3dm.zip (83.6 KB)

– Dale

archinate1 · September 23, 2020, 1:14am

Hi @dale
It seems I had an old librhino3dmio_native.dll being copied over in my application. Totally my fault.

It’s all up and running now.

Thank you for the assist.
-Nate

stevebaer · September 23, 2020, 2:24am

Whew; thanks for letting us know

childadrianpan · November 8, 2020, 3:16pm

Hi!
Same question, What “ON_SubD::BrepForm” does?
is it the method for convert subd to nurbs?

and i tried this function but it doesn`t work.
“”"
ON_Brep brep;
subd->BrepForm(&brep);
std::cout << “faces: " << brep.m_F.Count() << std::endl; // it always get me 0
“””
“”"
std::cout << “faces: " << subd->BrepForm()->m_F.Count() << std::endl; // this get me error
“””

dale · November 11, 2020, 8:26pm

This has been answered.