Rendering issue in r9

Some objects in my file render fine in r8 but are invisible in r9.
It’s almost like they aren’t being sent to the graphics card, they just aren’t there.
I haven’t toggled the visibilities of anything, I just open in different versions and render.
R8:


R9:

I will need an upload link for the 3dm file

Rhino 9 SR0 2025-6-24 (Rhino WIP, 9.0.25175.06305, Git hash:master @ 8720752431d790795d498af27e9fd926ccb2a2d7)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-06-24
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2025-08-08

Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 128GB)
.NET 9.0.3

Computer platform: DESKTOP (Hosting Remote Desktop session)

Standard graphics configuration using OpenGL
Primary display: Microsoft Remote Display Adapter (Microsoft) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 6-21-2006 (M-D-Y).
> Remote Desktop display device with 16 connection(s)
- Windows Main Display using connection #0
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A6000 (NVidia) Memory: 48GB, Driver date: 9-13-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 553.09
> Accelerated graphics device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-13-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5309
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 49140 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\23.4.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 23.4.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp “UpdatesAndStatistics” 9.0.25175.6305

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 9.0.25175.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

I have not yet made any changes to Rhino 9, not sure why it wouldn’t work.

I dunno, maybe it’s a layer thing.
I uploaded the file with your email address associated with it.

I did some light investigation, exploding the block instance has rendering go fine. I’ll ask around if anything has changed regarding block handling recently. I know that I did not make any changes. RhinoCycles should be pretty much the same between Rhino 8 and Rhino 9 at this point in time.

Logged as RH-88211 Block instance renders incorrectly

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HI @nathanletwory

This is still happening in v9. Any news about it? :

Rhino 9 SR0 2025-7-8 (Rhino WIP, 9.0.25189.12305, Git hash:master @ 103f1a49ca70157b6404b70975539bc98250e6cc)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-07-08
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2025-08-22

Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 9.0.7

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [8% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration using OpenGL
Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 6-21-2025 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A1000 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 5-12-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 573.24
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Laptop’s primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-12-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7324
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

OpenBLAS: OpenBLAS 0.3.29 DYNAMIC_ARCH NO_AFFINITY Haswell MAX_THREADS=64.

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShotRhinoPlugin (78243fe3-17a0-4865-b713-88b4c224c48c)\1.5.0.0\KeyShotRhinoPlugin\KeyShotRhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShotRhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp “UpdatesAndStatistics” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 9.0.25189.12305

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoLabsTools.rhp “Rhino Labs Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 9.0.25189.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”

Hi Sach -

RH-88211 is public.

-wim

Thanks Wim

Came here to report this too, and can verify that the moment I explode the blocks it renders fine. (Don’t have to restart Cycles, it autoupdates)

Latest build.

And some nit-picking: This thread is stating it has been solved, but I think that “Solution” mark should be disabled until this is actually solved.

I can’t repeat this problem at all in Rhino 9. Is it still happening for you guys in the latest builds?

It looks fixed now.

Doesn’t seem to be fixed for block display in Grasshopper. Latest 9 WIP

My screenshot shows 2 sets of three objects, one with blocks and one with their bounding box moved aside for display purpose. There’s also a Direct3D issue I reported in a separate topic