Release Candidate breaks Block Attribute Text

[wortley.jb (Johandré Wortley)]

Hi,
I have an issue with the latest version of Rhino Release Candidate.
Blocks with Attribute User Text behave incorrectly - blank value fields fail to show blank text. Fields with only spaces also fail.

Below is how my template behaves with a block of notes (should be blank from note 8 onwards):

If you cannot replicate this, let me know and I’ll share a note block like this one.

System Info Below:

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-8-20 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24233.01001, Git hash:master @ 6957666ece3a5f3ed7694c0ca66cdfea0407df3a)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-08-20
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 39GB)
.NET 7.0.7

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [59% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 4-11-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 4-11-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
AMD Radeon™ Graphics (AMD) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-17-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 1
DisplayLink USB Device (DisplayLink) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).
> External USB display device with 2 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 0
DisplayLink USB Device (DisplayLink) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).
> External USB display device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device. Laptop lid is probably closed

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-11-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5222
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\Wortley_Design\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.2.1.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”

[LewnWorx]

Having similar problem both in 8.11 and 8.10.

All my blocks and nested blocks are rendering the with the key name if the block is inserted with blank values for some of the keys. The shouldn’t be showing anythiung at all.

Further, if I try to fix them by changing the values and then deleting the values the other blocks start showing values that were previously entered in a totally different instance of the blocks.

This crap has now got me almost 3 days beyond on way over due files in the field and I"m starting to look like a real idiot at my new job.

[Trav (Travis Serio)]

Can you upload a file that shows the issue. I can take a look and see what changed.

[Japhy]

Looks to be narrowed down to 8.10

BUG REPORT - PDF Export ISSUES - Can't output overdue work

Have id’d the problem origination version. Rolled back to 8.5 and opened a template I’d done a year ago, and went up each point release dropping in a couple of the problem blocks. If it worked, I quit without saving, moved up to the next point release and tried again. The Issues start with 8.10. 8.09 does not have (at least some) of the big issues I’m seeing in 8.10 and 8.11. Fortunately the edits made in 8.10 aren’t breaking the file in 8.9 (at least so far, I haven’t tried everything). …

[Trav (Travis Serio)]

Thanks, lets get a YT for this. There were some changes for grasshopper as well as the user text panels that could be linked to the issue.

[wortley.jb (Johandré Wortley)]

Yes, I have halted my staff to update 8.9. I can confirm it works fine in that version. This issue appeared in 8.10. Would you still like that sample block?

[Japhy]

The fix for RH-83491is in for testing and will be publicly available soon in the daily builds and then the Service Release Candidate (8.11)

[LewnWorx]

@Japhy

Can’t see you track:

It’s been that way for a while, even when you try to log in as guest.

[stevebaer]

This bug should be fixed in today’s 8.11 release candidate

[wortley.jb (Johandré Wortley)]

Thank you Steve,
I will have a look at this tonight or tomorrow. Much appreciated.

[suMArch]

Unfortunately block attribute text is still either broken or the functionality suddenly changed. Now they work by block not by block instance. It did break all my model descriptions ;/

[martinsiegrist]

How do you bake your attributes?

[stevebaer]

@suMArch please run SystemInfo in Rhino and paste the results here

[suMArch]

Rhino 8 SR10 2024-8-15 (Rhino 8, 8.10.24228.13001, Git hash:master @ f4c93f2b85de4dc69b50ed22f1b0d91445724d03)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-08-15
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9261.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 5-13-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 555.85
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-13-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.5585
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
C:\Users\lsumi\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\TeDAsharp (ce983e9d-72de-4a79-8832-7c374e6e26de)\1.0.8405.22062\TeDaSharp_060.rhp “TeDAsharp” 1.0.8405.22062
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Program Files\Geometry Gym\Rhino8\BullAnt.rhp “bullant” 1.5.6.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Programs\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[Trav (Travis Serio)]

Hi @suMArch

The fix for this issue will be part of 8.11 which is currently in release candidate state. You can set your updates to install release candidates by selecting Service Release Candidate from the dropdown in the updates options.

[suMArch]

Thank You kindly Travis.