New Text, Leaders and Dimensions

OK, I’ll see what I can do about that. I won’t get to it right away but I’ll write it up now and I’ll probably have a question or two later.

@wim answered this better than I did - the radio buttons control the current style. You can highlight and edit a style without making it current.

I tried what you said and a few more variations and didn’t see a crash or error yet. I’ll keep an eye out for it, and if you get any more info, let me know.
Thanks

I won’t rule it out, but it probably won’t get to the top of the list soon. Is it pretty important to you?
If it was only in the display of text in dimensions and not in any interface in edit boxes or anything, would it help you?

I can duplicate the disappearing text.
The out-of-sync between the text box and model is a very hard thing to fix. We have a couple of ideas to try, but it’s kind of slipped down the list.
On Text, it works better to use the width grip to adjust wrapping. Maybe I should add that to leaders.
Also, I crashed fiddling around with the leader in your file.
I’m tempted to remove the wrapping control from the dialogs and just have the grip adjustment. The problem still remains about getting the text box and model to wrap the same even if the adjustment isn’t possible in the dialog.
Just whining to myself I guess.

Hey Lowell,

I don’t have WIP 6 yet, but wondering when you’re creating a simple, straightforward line of text - using the Text command, the font is set to Ariel by default…Is there any way to change the default, or have it match the font in the current dimension styles?

I rarely use Ariel, and every time I have to use Text, I have to reset the default.

Thank you.

@cosmas:
Text in V6 belongs to a named annotation dimension style.
The font it uses is part of that definition.
You would need to modify the named style you want to use, make it the current annotation style, and perhaps save that change into a template file so it would be there by default.

We chose Arial because we can count on it being in everyone’s Windows installation. If you choose a uncommon font and send a file to someone, it will be substituted and the presentation of your file will be changed.
If you never share files, the that won’t be an issue for you.

Not very but it makes it easier to read. I always turn it on in Excel.

Yes. I don’t need it in the interfaces - just the display will do fine.

Just to be sure it’s on the list - when editing existing text and changing the rotation angle by pressing the up or down arrow, the text in the viewport doesn’t respond to the change. Unless, that is, you force it by clicking somewhere else in the dialog or by Alt-Tab'ing to another program and back.

Here, it looks like it’s always one click behind until you leave the edit control.
I changed that control so it updates on leaving the control because when it updated for each keystroke and changed the object, it took extra undo’s to get back.
So if you typed 88, then one undo would get you to 8 and another one to 0.
I can fix the up/down arrow to update immediately and see if anybody cares about the undo situation.

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Thanks Lowell and @wim found and like the radio buttons for current DimStyle.

Dim Property Test V5.3dm (72.8 KB)
Dim Property Test V6.3dm (73.6 KB)

This little file shows the dimscale problem, the text gap in leader excess, and how the diameter dimension wish might look. I noticed in this comparison that text wrap on the leader text is not carried through to V6.

The dim property overrides is working and is better thanks, I missed it first time round as my tired eyes didn’t notice the expand arrow against the darkish background:

The various boxes in More Properties could use a bit of a stretch

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It doesn’t really go too well with our way of assigning print width
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I withdraw this wish Lowell, on testing a bit more it seems that the text remains constant width while the lines can be adjusted in the normal way - didn’t notice this before…

Overall the annotation package is looking good - fewer clicks results in smoother work flow, thanks for that.

Thanks. I’ll work on getting that file to read in better.

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@Lowell
What does Draw Forward do? As it is checked by default, what is it doing to my file? Why is it a blue link?

Draw Forward affects Text in dimensions.

Make a dimension in the Front or Right view, then rotate the the Perspective view to see the backside of the dimension.
When On, the text flips around so you can read it.
When Off, the text can be viewed from the backside.

And what is the meaning of the blue text?

Blue means the setting has been overriden and is not using the “pure” annotation dim style settings.
If you click on the style name in the panel, you can “remove overrides”.

It’s blue whether it is checked or not, so I don’t think I get it.

Make a default linear dimension.
In the property panel change the text to be “in line”, and the option turns blue indicating the override.
Click on the default name and choose Remove overrides.
The text goes back above the dimension line and the blue is gone.

I think I see a bug. The text for Draw Forward starts out not blue. If I check the box, it turns blue. If I uncheck the box, it does not turn back. This is in the Properties, not the style.

Draw Forward should only be blue if the option is On in the style definition and Off in the object property panel.