Set-up a custom Rhino template with the Ground Plane and Sky Light on, an environment set up and adjust the “scene” to your liking. You now have a pre-made, generic “Keyshot” scene, right in Rhino. Use this “scene” template directly for modeling or import Rhino models into it, turn on Neon in a viewport when you want to see how a model looks rendered. You’ll have basic, easy rendering set-up that you can use for quick renderings, similar to Keyshot but right it Rhino.
Mcramblet, what’s a scene look like - say - for a cellphone?
That’s kind of subjective. A generic studio light tent HDRI environment with a neutral floor works well for a lot of different types of products, even white products. Here is a very plain light tent, neutral type of set-up with a white iPhone I grabbed:
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Mcramblet, Hey! That’s EXACTLY what I want & need! NEON! Good grief! MCRAMBLET! I want your environment - what is it? What does it look like?
My head reels looking at all the iddy-biddy controls in the cockpit of Maxwell, and all the others, except KeyShot - maybe BunkSpeed Shot, which aren’t worth 1k (not to me). Maxwell and fluidRay, wide price swings - $775/ $590/ $349 etc depending if you google coupons, or negotiate discounts. You can twist arms and get 15%-25% - even 30% OFF if you present these companies with research - explaining you are aware of market prices, and competition - and make them bend, lowering the price. $1,000 isn’t chump change. I can buy these programs all day long for less than 1/10th in China, and I don’t. However, I make the competition aware of their competition - and they respond. However, NEON is exactly what I need - a simple - not overdone - easy on the eyes - fast - easy to learn - reliable - integrated to Rhino 5. IMO V-Ray is probably best - if you want to swallow & ship a DONGLE - because it has an EXPRESS SIMPLE INTERFACE option and is the BEST integrated into Rhino - again - it’s $1,000. I’d consider $700 on CYBERMONDAY - If I can get them to pay shipping for the dongle to CHINA $150.
After that - KEYSHOT - or BUNKSPEED - for simplicity. After that - FLUIDRAY - only $349 and Maxwell I like - and the rest - but just glancing at all those INTERFACE ITEMS pains me - too much CLUTTER! IMO they need to have different WORKSPACE OPTIONS - beginner - etc - or simple - etc.
So NEON or V-Ray or a toss-up between Keyshot & Bunkpeed Shot. Thank you all!
I posted a very similar Rhino environment, just recently. Try this one out with Neon:
This week at the Rhino Reseller meeting of Barcelona we saw a new and very attractive render for Rhino called Arion for Rhino.
It is both CPU & GPU based and fully integrated in Rhinoceros.
To know more http://www.randomcontrol.com/arion
Philippe PIGEARD, CADLINK, reseller of Rhino in Paris, France.
Whoa… That’s a lot of responses! I skim read a few as I’m limited to what i can use on the Mac beta version.
I’ve just bought Keyshot 5 Pro as i’m using Rhino Mac beta - it is pretty fantastic, creates great results quickly. The Keyshot team often invite people to their webinars where you can ask questions directly of professionals using their software on the fly. If you don’t want to delve into the depths of V-Ray or the like and you just want high end renders I think Keyshot is perfect, it’s not quite integrated with Rhino 5 yet but It’s on the cards.
Having watched a few webinars I can see there is a big following from high end users.
It can also open native Rhino files and the pro version renders NURBS as well as polys
A couple of my colleagues who use Rhino on PC love Octane and rave about that… I’m happy to wait for Rhino Mac launch and probable integration - just waiting for Grasshopper and i’ll be a happy bunny : )
I would add a comment about Bunkspeed Shot.
It’s optimised as a GPU renderer - to make the most out of it requires a big graphics card.
Keyshot is CPU based - uses your processor.
In most people’s cases you’re likely to have a machine with a great processor and a good graphics card. But not a card which gets the best from Bunkspeed.
So I think in most people’s case Keyshot is probably the more effective option unless you have a big graphics card…
In our office at the moment I use Rhino and Bunkspeed. The machine has an Nvidia GeForce card which is selected to get good Bunkspeed performance but for modelling in Rhino it’s not as good as an Nvidia Quadro card.
For instance running the ‘testmaxspeed’ command in Rhino with 100 shaded spheres returns results 4 times slower than my Dell precision machine from 4 years ago.
I used to use Rhino with Keyshot - a better solution. I will get back to this moving forward.
Just a thought…
That nixes BunkSpeed Shot - starting to think NEON - if I am able to be a genius in a most humble simplicity as NEON - and arrive at straightforward renderings - NO MUSS - NO FUSS - NO RUST - NO DUST - then why not? Start at the beginning - just kick the can down the street - don’t need a ticker tape parade - not at this stage. Got my head full of T-Splines - YIKES!
Have you tried in SR10 release candidate plus the latest nVidia drivers?
–Mitch
…don’t expect this to happen real soon… --Mitch
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Mitch
I think that I need to update the driver for the GeForce card in my work machine. But considering it’s still 4 times slower than my home 2010 dell precision M4500 with a Quadro card I think it says a lot.
My M4500 is dead so I’ll probably be replacing it with a new precision M3800 slim body which has a Quadro card. I’ll definitely be sticking to Keyshot.
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I experienced an approximately 4x speedup on my home workstation with the 100 sphere test since I last tested with older drivers and SR9 : 4.75 sec down to 1.25 sec. My GTX 780 is now about the same as the Quadro 2000M in my laptop - and they’re about in the same price range. They’re still slower than my Quadro 4000 in my work machine (0.6 seconds) with the sphere test, but the 4000 was also about twice the price.
The overall Holomark score with the GTX was actually better than the Quadro 4000…
–Mitch
Yea - screw the video cards - they are expensive - and they burn out - and they’re big and bothersome to mess with - and keep up with all the jive - I say go PURE CPU and go a CPU renderer -
Is Flamingo nXt now irrelevant?
I have Vray and I have used Keyshot and the bottom line is that Keyshot is simpler but Vray is a much more versatile renderer. But when making the choice don’t underestimate the issue of the dongle. I think many people misunderstand this. There is someone on the SketchUp forum right now who didn’t read the fine print. He lost his dongle and now he has to buy a new license. The dongle makes your software into hardware. And hardware can break, it can malfunction or you can damage it. And if it does, you’re out of luck. It’s not like other software that you can always uninstall and re-install if you have problems and you’re good to go. There’s nothing to ‘lose’. But if you take that dongle to work and it slips out of your pocket, your software is gone. As simple as that.
What the GENETIC equivalent of a DONGLE? A cruise missile? A Tomahawk? A broken condom? I don’t understand DONGLE. Is it like MALINGERING? Is it like ANTI-Venom for DEMENTIA? Is it something that’s covered-up except when it’s not? Is it like children who keep parents together? Is it SPINAL FLUID? Is it a TRAP DOOR? A gigantis jumping spider? A welfare check? An x-girlfriend?
Do people actually underestimate their DONGLE? People?!
Your passport when traveling, your car key or your visa card when shopping.
You are you, you own the car and you have the money, but it doesn’t matter with out the “dongle”.
The dongle keeps others from tampering with what is yours, but the dongle is not for your convenience, but to prevent others from freeriding. I hate dongles, I hate hardware linked software and software that can only be activated on one computer, I never use cracked software and I have to pay the penalty for those who do, and I think it is ok, but I still hate dongles. Don’t really know why, because I don’t hate car keys. 
Here is a simple Neon test of the Mini file from Holomark2:
As the file already has a HDRI sat up all I did was to hide the spotlights and the top of the “box” in the file, then turn on skylight and add a rectangular light (with 50% brightness) to light the front of the car. This was done on the old homecomputer with a C2Q 6600 processor (an old and not very fast quad core)
Another good thing with Neon is that you can upgrade it with Brazil if you need indirect lighting and advanced materials, like good glass etc.
Do know that there are still bugs in Neon, where material changes don’t allways update, AND it crashes Rhino. So save before use and turn it off and on again if it isn’t updating. Also it lacks a proper high res render integration, but 2K (FullHD) images can be used in very many situations as is. And it’s free!
Hahaha!!! That’s good enough for me! No nonsense straight up rendering - it’s like a shot of good scotch - the buzz. Is it a work in progress? Are they going to continue improving it and fixing bugs? Will they repair the obvious shortcomings - you’d have a real HAM SANDWICH - a great no-nonsense workhorse! I like NEON best now. Keyshot is #2 + CPU driven，+simple, -not Rhino integrated like V-Ray and even paying $700 on CberMonday is big money! After that V-Ray - dongle! Hate dongles and hate $1000 cost!
HOLO,
Can you render the MINI brighter lightng?