Hi,
V5
wish to represent a weld bonding one object to another recreating an actual weld.
is there a command to do so, indicating how far out across a surface the weld gets laid, and how high up the object it can go ?
a ripple effect would be a nice touch.
Cheers
Steve
Hi Steve - there is no command for this, youâll either need to model it using the regular surface tools or come up with some kind of texture mapping, or a combination of the two.
-Pascal
There is a very slow way to do that, but it will not give a realistic size of the weld based on the angle between two tubes.
I forgot to mention that after you use âRebuild surface UVâ, you can additionally control the shape of the surface via the âMove UVNâ tool. Do do that, you just need to select the middle row of control points and then adjust it with the N slider.
Hi,
V5
thanks B Design Bg2, not quick and not the cancave I need but , looks âinvolvedâ.
Is there a plugin or something as yet again I need to do welds, concave welds needed and the method I used of sweeps and so on with a wavy path was time consuming, as is the method offered here.
surely rhino should be able to make weld with a command.
select adjoining surfaces for weld
select spread of weld
select convex or concave
select ripple amount
hit ok
(might need a limiter on where to stop the weld)
I try FilletSrf, draw a block using basic object tools, and another on top and use comman âfilletSrfâ to fillet the L angle âAâ between them, but it fails.
why does filletSrf fail to fillet the joint between one cube and another placed on top when the other is smaller in size.
If it had worked how can one ripple the fillet surface ?
we need a weld command please. or someone do a plugin. or code something I can add as a tool button.
FilletSrf fail.3dm (39.1 KB)
Steve
It depends on the radius of the fillet - it will fail if it cannot fit.
-Pascal
Hi, the two blocks were not unioned, so I would need to union all objects between which welds were to go.
Steve
Is this a quick weld method and how to achieve it ?
for concave welds:-
Seems easy and quick if I knew best method for steps 2,3, and 4. easy for everyone.
Anyone got any even quicker methods ?
If one didnt want to union their objects to allow filletSrf to work, clone them, union those, fillet those, explode, keep fillet DupeEdge and delete the clones.
Steve
This is an old thread, but it might give some pointers:
Hi, unfortunately many images are missing.
by pascal using displacementMapping IS EXCELLENT.
so the question is, how to get the surface to apply the displacement map to.
For a concave weld, I reckon FilletSrf is step 1 then apply the displacement map.
Pascals settings were:-
I have used an arc, created a surface, command applyDisplacement.
I see pascals pattern, select it use pascals settings, it fails,
see attached, what went wrong ?
For a convex weld, what would be the method to get the surface ?
Displacement for weld follow pascal fail.3dm (299.2 KB)
Cheers
Steve
Hi,
Thanks,
I used Dir and white arrows pointing opposite way, so flip, but still not matching, see the green arrow facing east and red south, so mess about with U and V and end up using S swap, better but still has ripples, yet Pascals was smooth, Also the pitch of the waves is nearer together than Pascals yet I used the exact same settings numbers.
so to compare exactly I create a pascal surface, using DupeEdge, section and sweep rail,
apply the same image and settings, and its like a cheese grater, so dir and get white arrows same, then again U and V and needs S, and its almost matching, but again mine has ripples circled in red, Pascals is smooth.
yet now I am on exact same settings . at least the pitch matched, so pitch is very susceptible to curvature of surface it seems.
What is wrong now , how do I remove those sub ripples, dents ?
Displacement for weld follow pascal fail.3dm (562.2 KB)
Steve
Hello - to make this work you really need a simple fillet surface - then you can slide the middle row of points along - turn on control points for the surfaces and youâll see the UV was distorted by sliding the middle row on the fillet against the cylinder. It will be tricky to do that on the more complex surface.
-Pascal
Hi Pascal,
having cloned your surface, or so I thought using DupEdge then section to get the profile through the surface, I thought I was comparing like for like.
Try again, clone your surface move out to left, turn off displacement this time, section the surface and dupEdge, sweep2rail, this has to be your surface, apply same settings, still I have those dings and dents.
Not sure with same surface and settings this is so.
Not sure what sliding middle row etc is, need to see a video or something but if I have copied your surface anyway, do I need to do this ?
Steve
Hello - the displacement texture is applied to the surface according to the surface UV - that is what happens by default. By moving the middle row of control points along the length of the fillet surface, this stretches the U and V to bend accordingly - the isocurves also show this distortion. That is a cheap trick to get the weld lines to flow into a slight crescent shape, nothing more.
-Pascal
Hi,
I see what you mean, though not sure how all the control points can be slid along the surface, I have never slid a control point let alone all at same time around a surface.
Any tutorials anywhere on that welcome.
But what about those dings and dents, as if the ripples were made in tinfoil and someone has knocked it a few times with a small blunt item. as its the same surface as yours why with the exact same setting do they appear ?
Steve
