Can I turn off 'Duplicate'?

I can’t describe how much I dislike ‘Duplicate’ on the MacOS version. Is there a way I can turn it ‘off’ and make the default work like every other normal program and just do a ‘Save As’?

And yes: I know I can hold down shift to get to ‘Save-As’, but every program I’ve used for the last 20 years has just had ‘Shift-Command-S’ as the ‘Save As’ default, and my muscle memory is faster than my brain. I never, ever, ever, ever want it to duplicate my file when I just want to Save-As. There must be a way to change this default behavior someplace, no?

best,
@ed.p.may

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Looks like this change came from Apple:

For whatever reason, Apple changed the Command+Shift+S keyboard shortcut to be the curious “Duplicate” saving option instead, which makes a copy of the existing file you’re trying to save in the current app.

Here I found a guide to change it:

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Thank you so much @Gijs !!! That is so much better.

best,
@ed.p.may

Thank you so so so so much. You saved my day! And many future days.

Hi @Gijs

For some reason this stopped working for me - have you heard of any update or change to this on Mac? I really, really, really, really, really, never ever, ever, ever, ever, under any circumstances want it to duplicate my file.

Command-Shift-S works as normal in Grasshopper btw (executes a normal Save As) - it is only Rhino itself that has this ‘duplicate’ business?

Environment:

  • Rhino Version 8 (8.12.24282.07002, 2024-10-08)
  • MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1

@ed.p.may

@ed.p.may no, still works here,
What does your file menu look like?

It looks as expected (shows “Save As…”):

but the keyboard command “Command-Shift-S” just doesn’t work now (doesn’t do anything at all).

But in Grasshopper the keyboard command works as expected (executes Save-As) - its only in Rhino that it doesn’t work? Very odd… :person_shrugging:

ah well. thanks -E

What if you explicitly add that to the keyboard shortcuts?

ah - good idea: except that bizarrely:

while in Rhino pressing “Command-Shift-S” does nothing, IF I am in the Settings / Alias dialog, and hit “Command-Shift-S”, it then DOES launch the Save-As dialog (which then means I can’t actually bind that key combo to the command…)

I have also noticed just now that IF I first click on “File” and THEN hit “Command-Shift-S”, then in that case it WILL launch the Save-As dialog as well. But I’m just in the regular Rhino modeling viewport, that same key-combo does nothing at all.

weird. At the least: doing nothing is better than accidentally duplicating…

In that video, you are in Aliases, not in keyboard shortcuts.

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ah! I didn’t know those were different things…