Hi everyone, When working with 1:N components (Divide Curve, Shatter, Explode, and many others), the output always gets an extra branch level. I know why it happens, but in many cases I do not need that level, so I have to place a Trim Tree after each one of these components. In a definition with s…

I feel like I should outline the basic conflict here: Grasshopper components follow the concept of adding as many depths of hierarchy to a path of an output as would be necessary to accomodate the most complex constellation of data structure given to it as input. If the input data is less complex (…

[image] dfytz1: simplify is not a good practice. [image] Martin Siegrist: I think as long as you don’t flatten and match tree it’s all good [image] Volker Rakow: I clean up at the end with Simplify or Match Tree As I was saying, I am always careful to never use Simplify or Flatt…

I think we might be overcomplicating this: components in the 1:1 category do not add any extra level, components in the other categories add exactly one level (and two in the very rare cases with grid-type outputs). This behaviour is consistent and works well. For simple, sequential scripts, the da…

[image] Fabio Franchetti: Unpopular opinion regarding Suirify: it is essentially Simplify on steroids That’s not an unpopular opinion. [image] Fabio Franchetti: I think we might be overcomplicating this. My post was mostly meant in the way of explanation.

I’ve never find once a practical scenario where a logic without using Simplify stops working if I use Simplify. … so, I use Simplify everywhere to keep thing more readable. Happy life. Until today, I never used Suirify once and still can’t understand where I would need it… Trim tree. I use it oft…

[image] Riccardo Majewski: Personally, when datatrees go past 3 levels of complexity (real levels, not zeroes), I find it simpler to go inside a c# and everything become much simpler… and you add multithreading too. win-win situation. I am assuming there are alot more data manipulations avai…

[image] Volker Rakow: I am assuming there are alot more data manipulations available to you when you code as well? I wouldn’t know. No, the opposite. Complex datatree manipulation are needed because of how visual programming language works: everything happens all at once, simultaneously. In…

[image] Volker Rakow: That’s not an unpopular opinion. The unpopular part is the rest of the paragraph :face_with_tongue: [image] Riccardo Majewski: I’ve never find once a practical scenario where a logic without using Simplify stops working if I use Simplify It’s a matter of luck and…

[image] Fabio Franchetti: It’s a matter of luck and applications. Consider your example tree {0;0;x;0;y;0}. Imagine you have to split it and you end up with the branches with all x OR all y being = 0. If you simplify you break the structure You know… :thinking: … if path indexing started at 1…

I think it might be getting late for both of us, this one does not quite add up. Let us sleep on it and pick it up another day

Any news on UNGRAFT as a right-click output modifier?

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Volker_Rakow (Volker Rakow) March 18, 2026, 11:53pm 18

I am assuming there are alot more data manipulations available to you when you code as well? I wouldn’t know.

@maje90

Simplify should be replaced with Suirify, now that’s an unpopular opinion

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Any news on UNGRAFT as a right-click output modifier?

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