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## [The Guardian and the Dragon, a journey... :-)](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-guardian-and-the-dragon-a-journey/154148)

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**Author:** [@Thomas\_Helzle](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Thomas_Helzle)\
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**Last updated:** [November 30, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-guardian-and-the-dragon-a-journey/154148 "2023-11-30T19:01:27Z")

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In early 2016, Johannes Kirsch from the Kivent GmbH approached me, if I could design a modern, stylish table-football figure for him, that at the same time should play really really well. He planned to also create a n…