Wish: Layout WYSIWYG - Command: "PrintDisplay"


#1

Are there any good ways to make layouts be WYSIWYG? (what you see is what you get)
I think this should be default, with a toggle on/off if you like, since a layout is a print preview kind of.

Thanks.


#2

Hi,

Does the PrintDisplay command not doe that?

-Willem


#3

You are damn right it does!

But where is the icon hidden? I can’t find it on neither “Display” nor the “Drafting” tab.
Nor can I rightclick on the layout and turn it on.

Oh… I found it in the viewport title for the layout has a “Print Preview” option that turns it on. (And I can type it obviously) but I think it should be more IN YOUR FACE as an option :slight_smile: (so people with lots on their mind can find it)

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It’s a problem that settings are scattered all over the place now.
So here is one place I would expect it to be:

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And I would expect to find it here too:
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And this is another logic place to look:

I tried searching WYSIWYG and “toggle line width” etc. but PrintDisplay didn’t cross my mind as a command (even though I now know that I have used it, but I through I remembered a test commandso all I found when searching was “TestWireThicknessScale”.

Anway, made an icon for it now though, so thanks!


#4

Oh, and it warns that it can make the display slow, so autotoggeling it off when panning and zooming (dynamic toggeling like all other display modes) would be great.


(Pascal Golay) #5

Hi Jorgen - the button in the default workspace is in the Display tab

-Pascal


(IVELIN PEYCHEV) #6

@pascal, is there any tutorial or user’s guide that shows drawing generation functionalities of Rhino? This is quite new to me. I don’t remember it existing in previous versions. Well, I used autoCad back then so maybe I just never looked for something like that in Rhino.


(Pascal Golay) #7

Hi Ivelin - I think the answer is No, but I’m not sure what you mean by this …

-Pascal


(IVELIN PEYCHEV) #8

Layout, paper space, viewports arranging view on drawings these kinds of things.

Update: Setting dimensions and annotations size depending on the scale of the particular view.


(Pascal Golay) #9

Does this help:

https://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/layouts5

?

-Pascal


(IVELIN PEYCHEV) #10

Hi Pascal, yes it is, thank you.


#11

You mean here??? :roll_eyes:
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I have not accidentally moved it and deleted it, so can it be that this was added later than SR0 and that this toolbar hasn’t been updated in any SR’s, or that I have some leftover settings from the WIP syclus?

(BTW: the icon looks like “techincal display mode” since it has 3D objects with hidden lines, so maybe you can upgrade to something indicating line width for V7?)

Good to see that it is in the display tab though!


#12

I don’t have it here either.
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#13

Now you guys made me open toolbars in Rhino :scream_cat:

Before ToolbarReset:
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After ToolbarReset:
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#14

Funky colors.
Will I lose my own toolbar with custom commands if I do the ToolbarReset?


#15

To make sure that I close them again as fast as possible…

Not if you have saved your custom toolbars with a different name! So always make sure to do just that!


(IVELIN PEYCHEV) #16

oh that thing is so confusing, I tried to add my toolbar as tab and it got completely messed up, as if I created a new copy of it, every change to my toolbar had to do to that tab too.

Someone has to come up with a better toolbar/tab organizer. Also for exporting/importing I made a suggestion a while ago, Toolbars should also be exported from Export Options.


#17

About a year ago, I asked about PrintDisplay (“PrintDisplay doesn’t do what I want”). There was basically no answer to what I saw as big inconvenience in PrintDisplay. I’m on Rhino 4. Does this mean that the inconvenience has gone away in Rhino 6?


#18

There haven’t been changes to the way PrintDisplay works, no.


#19

Hi David, I just looked at your initial post PrintDisplay doesn't do what I want

Print Display behaves differently in Layout and in modelling view, it even has different settings and also a different name.

“Print Preview” in Layout uses the line width setting for the printed lines, regardless of the scale. It shows the linewidth that the printer will get and it works great for it’s use.

“Print Display” kind of just fakes this. I too wished for a world-size-line-thickness feature back in the days, but for my current needs when making prints like maps and production drawings then the current behavior is better.


#20

Thanks for the reply. I’m not sure I follow all of this. Remember I’m back in Rhino 4. I haven’t used “Layout” … I have not idea whether Rhino 4 has Layout versus ordinary … I might look.

Dave

In a message dated 9/17/2018 02:32:23 Eastern Standard Time, mcneel@discoursemail.com writes:

Holo
September 17
Hi David, I just looked at your initial post PrintDisplay doesn’t do what I want

Print Display behaves differently in Layout and in modelling view, it even has different settings and also a different name.

“Print Preview” in Layout uses the line width setting for the printed lines, regardless of the scale. It shows the linewidth that the printer will get and it works great for it’s use.

“Print Display” kind of just fakes this. I too wished for a world-size-line-thickness feature back in the days, but for my current needs when making prints like maps and production drawings then the current behavior is better.