# WIP 8 Antialiasing issue

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440>\
**Category:** Serengeti (Rhino BETA)\
**Tags:** windows\
**Created:** [September 6, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440 "2022-09-06T15:47:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/1 "2022-09-06T15:47:10Z")

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Trying out WIP 8 today. Immediately noticed that the antialiasing is not working very well. R7 is much sharper looking with settings at 8x. Changing between 2x, 4x and 8x antialiasing settings in WIP 8 seems to have no effect, but it gets worse when you change it to ‘none’. Anyone else report or experience this? To be honest it looks so bad I am going to switch back to R7 for now

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**Author:** ![DanBayn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/danbayn/32/477847_2.png) [@DanBayn](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/DanBayn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/2 "2022-09-06T16:03:40Z")

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I’m not seeing much of a difference here.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/3/1/c/31c620c414dd9c6993ea8ca749712e926c55c487.png)  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/9/5/6/95687d7739f8b0a67225a8c268ed87f89125e0b0.png)

Not sure if this would have anything to do with it, but I would suggest you make sure you have the latest graphics drivers.

Dan

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/3 "2022-09-06T16:27:12Z")

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Yeah I am getting much more jagged edges in WIP 8. Edge clarity seems to be very dynamic too…when I am orbiting around my model the edge sharpness changes very drastically depending on viewing angle etc.

 ![R7](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/7/4/e/74e4f28f039844edca26ae4b73df3b7938c45fdd.jpeg)  
WIP 8

 ![WIP 8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/d/b/5/db517f33c7ae1273f4bf9179fbc0782e0c6a0cfb.jpeg)  
R7

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**Author:** ![DanBayn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/danbayn/32/477847_2.png) [@DanBayn](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/DanBayn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/4 "2022-09-06T16:58:58Z")

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Hi Brady,

Do you have your labels mixed up? That top image looks a lot smoother than the bottom, but you have the top labelled as WIP 8. I’m guessing the bottom one is really from the WIP.

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/5 "2022-09-06T17:01:11Z")

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Oh my gosh, yes I did mix the labels up sorry.

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**Author:** ![skysurfer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/skysurfer/32/665707_2.png) [@skysurfer](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/skysurfer)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/6 "2022-09-06T17:11:01Z")

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First of all run the systeminfo tool on both rhino and upload them here.

My first guess is that wip8 is using the embedded Intel video device instead of your dedicated card.

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/7 "2022-09-06T17:28:27Z")

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SYSTEM INFO FOR RHINO 7

Rhino 7 SR22 2022-8-29 (Rhino 7, 7.22.22241.07001, Git hash:master @ 752c32917c9a5a67a84684d402757f922e6d7ed9)  
License type: Commercial, build 2022-08-29  
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.  
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A4000 (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.94  
\> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0  
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings  
Safe mode: Off  
Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On  
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x  
Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation  
Render version: 4.6  
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA  
Driver Date: 7-21-2022  
Driver Version: 31.0.15.1694  
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768  
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits  
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768  
Total Video Memory: 16376 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk\_etoui.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk\_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR\_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 7.22.22241.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”   
C:\Users\brady\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2021.4.30.511\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

SYSTEM INFO FOR WIP 8  
Rhino 8 SR0 2022-8-30 (Rhino WIP, 8.0.22242.00305, Git hash:master @ 4db61e882aa09c39e4a74abb93e956c0185012c5)  
License type: Commercial, build 2022-08-30  
License details: Cloud Zoo  
Expires on: 2022-10-14

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.  
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A4000 (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.94  
\> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0  
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings  
Safe mode: Off  
Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On  
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x  
Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation  
Render version: 4.6  
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA  
Driver Date: 7-21-2022  
Driver Version: 31.0.15.1694  
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768  
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits  
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768  
Total Video Memory: 16376 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk\_etoui.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk\_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Constraints.rhp “Constraints”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoRoslyn.rhp “RhinoRoslyn” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCPython.rhp “RhinoCPython” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 8.0.22242.305  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 8.0.22242.305

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/8 "2022-09-06T17:29:53Z")

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Here is another couple of screenshots

 ![WIP 8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/a/6/4/a64960710b3d0a07e0e1dc56372a22601294ca71.jpeg)  
 ![R7](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/5/a/b/5abcd210cc43f5a7e3a58926521e3d5d3572bc45.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/9 "2022-09-06T18:43:28Z")

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Hi Brady -  
If I’m not mistaken, that’s on the list:

> [@Bad graphics with wireframe](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bad-graphics-with-wireframe/147044/8):
>
> Hi Rob, This is a know bug that we have on our list at [https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-66088/Curve-is-gappy-in-V8](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-66088/Curve-is-gappy-in-V8) Curve drawing got a lot more complicated in Rhino 8 and appears to be failing on some nVidia drivers. I typically do all of my graphics development on Intel since traditionally if I could get things to work there they worked just fine on nVidia and AMD. I’m getting an nVidia based development machine set up to try and track this one down.

-wim

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/10 "2022-09-06T19:12:58Z")

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Seems like a similar problem yes. Any comment on why changing the antialiasing settings has no visible effect (ie, x2 looks the same as x8)?

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**Author:** ![MrLu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mrlu/32/352000_2.png) [@MrLu](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MrLu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/11 "2022-09-23T02:20:17Z")

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I have this same problem using a 3060ti… So probably related to NVIDIA drivers?  
By turning on FXAA in the nvidia control panel I was able to get some AA back, but It’s not as good as Rhino 6 or 7.

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**Author:** ![brady1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brady1/32/482218_2.png) [@brady1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brady1)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/12 "2022-09-23T13:47:54Z")

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Glad I am not alone. I think this would be considered a regression and I would expect to see a fix before R8 launch.

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**Author:** ![mlukasz87](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mlukasz87/32/499536_2.png) [@mlukasz87](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/mlukasz87)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/13 "2022-09-23T13:52:58Z")

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Talked about it also here:

> [@Display difference between 7 & 8 WIP](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/display-difference-between-7-8-wip/136911/9):
>
> V8 WIP V7

NVIDIA GTX 1060 used there.

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**Author:** ![dan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/dan/32/481637_2.png) [@dan](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/dan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/14 "2022-10-18T23:26:56Z")

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[RH-66088](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-66088) - reported in [the other topic](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bad-graphics-with-wireframe/147044) - is fixed in the latest [WIP](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/welcome-to-serengeti/9612).

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**Author:** ![brglez.primoz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brglez.primoz/32/767904_2.png) [@brglez.primoz](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brglez.primoz)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/15 "2023-11-07T15:17:08Z")

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I’m also having anti-aliasing issues with the R8 release version. Doesn’t seem to be working at all and changing OpenGL setting does nothing.

```auto
Rhino 8 SR0 2023-10-31 (Rhino 8, 8.0.23304.09001, Git hash:master @ 20e15cf9bd66e6676f849f22e485cb3e82a8beac)
License type: Evaluation, build 2023-10-31
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2024-02-05

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 96Gb)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP 

Standard graphics configuration.
  Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (NVidia) Memory: 24GB, Driver date: 10-26-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.01
    > Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

Secondary graphics devices.
  Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 7-24-2023 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
  
  Anti-alias mode: 8x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
  
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 10-26-2023
  Driver Version: 31.0.15.4601
  Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
  Total Video Memory: 24564 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
  C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp	"Datasmith Exporter"	5.2.0.0
  C:\Users\Primoz\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.3\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp	"NVIDIADenoiser.Windows"	0.4.3.0
  C:\Users\Primoz\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\AutoCameraTarget\2.2.0\Libx.Fix.AutoCameraTarget.rhp	"AutoCameraTarget"	2.2.0.0
  C:\Users\Primoz\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Corgi\0.5.6\Corgi.rhp	"Corgi"	0.5.5.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"WebBrowser"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp	"RhinoScript"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp	"AnimationTools"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp	"IdleProcessor"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp	"Legacy Rhino Render"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp	"RhinoCodePlugin"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"	

```

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/9/4/b/94bd3e513729df7ecfef0bd0b66c1e124265c8a7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![brglez.primoz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brglez.primoz/32/767904_2.png) [@brglez.primoz](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/brglez.primoz)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/wip-8-antialiasing-issue/147440/16 "2023-11-07T16:12:18Z")

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Also same results on my laptop. The curve is also jagged for some reason.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/3/1/a/31ad469e0f6ab661cefcc36d662200709b640989.png)

```auto
Rhino 8 SR0 2023-10-31 (Rhino 8, 8.0.23304.09001, Git hash:master @ 20e15cf9bd66e6676f849f22e485cb3e82a8beac)
License type: Evaluation, build 2023-10-31
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2024-02-05

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
.NET 7.0.8

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
  Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-15-2023 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
  Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 10-26-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.01
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
  
  Anti-alias mode: 8x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
  
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 10-26-2023
  Driver Version: 31.0.15.4601
  Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
  Total Video Memory: 8188 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
  C:\Users\Primoz\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\BoltGen_py (283dd9db-bcac-ab3c-9b9a-6f41eaf6160f)\1.0.6642.13019\BoltGen_py.rhp	"BoltGen_py"	1.0.0.0
  C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp	"Datasmith Exporter"	5.2.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"WebBrowser"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp	"RhinoScript"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp	"IdleProcessor"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp	"RhinoCodePlugin"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	8.0.23304.9001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"	

```

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Since starting this thread, my anti aliasing issues have remained persistent to this day. Display quality is still visibly worse than R7 ever was. I am used to it now so not so big a deal but it would be nice to be able to crisp up the visuals

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Hello,  
We are encountering the same issue with anti aliasing with the R8 version.  
See below the screenshots with different settings:

 ![r7 4x](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/0/e/b/0ebc975e800299e5c071a8a4e7dee2208f402d2c.jpeg)  
 ![r8 0x](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/b/0/9/b0922d857047a33557d6d44c133c0666e79d2e05.jpeg)  
 ![r8 4x](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/6/2/1/621f4c697d1f93879941b9012c7113ef9b098f5c.jpeg)  
 ![r8 8x](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/b/c/4/bc4cce852113a514047a3b4b0b5923c7a29b68f2.jpeg)

The result is much better with the R7 version.  
It is very uncomfortable to work with R8, especially with 1 px thick lines.

```auto
Rhino 8 SR1 2023-11-21 (Rhino 8, 8.1.23325.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a4a437248efac5d9cb04d3904481b83e4c23a64)
License type: Commercial, version 2023-11-21
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
.NET 7.0.14

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
  Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 7-11-2023 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
  Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 11-26-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 527.37
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
        - Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
  
  Anti-alias mode: 4x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
  
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 11-26-2022
  Driver Version: 31.0.15.2737
  Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
  Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"NavigateurInternet"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rendu de Rhino"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp	"Ancien rendu de Rhino"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp	"RhinoCodePlugin"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	8.1.23325.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp	"BlockEdit"	8.1.23325.13001

```

Does anyone know if McNeel is working on this issue for a next release ?

Thanks,

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Somebody wrote on this forum that AA looked the best in Rhino 5. Because I also noticed AA quality degradation between RH 7 and RH 8, out of curiosity I installed Rhino 5 to compare the results. Rhino 5 is a clear winner IMO. It’s hard to give up on this after seeing how smooth lines can be - there is something about them. It’s especially apparent during highlighted object selection.

In all cases, I have 8x AA.

> **System Info**
>
> Rhino 8 SR2 2023-11-29 (Rhino 8, 8.2.23333.09481, Git hash:master @ f86ef9263572569e355077b20611612127c1a79a)  
> License type: Evaluation, build 2023-11-29  
> License details: Cloud Zoo  
> Expires on: 2024-01-30
> 
> Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64Gb)  
> .NET 7.0.11
> 
> Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
> 
> Non-hybrid graphics configuration.  
> Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 10-4-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.58  
> \> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
> - Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port  
> - Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1  
> Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 10-4-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.58  
> \> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
> - Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port  
> - Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1
> 
> OpenGL Settings  
> Safe mode: Off  
> Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
> Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On  
> Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
> 
> Anti-alias mode: 8x  
> Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
> Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
> 
> Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation  
> Render version: 4.6  
> Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA  
> Driver Date: 10-4-2023  
> Driver Version: 31.0.15.3758  
> Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768  
> Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits  
> Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768  
> Total Video Memory: 11520 MB
> 
> Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino  
> C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\23.4.0.0\bella\_rhino.rhp “Bella” 23.4.0.0  
> C:\Users\Czaja\Desktop\Rhino\_7\_Win\_2023.0417\HDRLightStudioTexture.rhp “HDRLightStudioTexture”   
> C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Crayon (39629248-4fa6-47b8-83c7-745a7efea259)\1.2.0.0\Crayon\Crayon.rhp “Crayon” 1.0.0.0  
> C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\SubstanceImporter\2.0.3\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter” 2.0.3.0  
> C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
> 
> Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk\_etoui.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.2.23333.9481  
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”   
> C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

* * *

> **AA Gallery**
>
> _Rhino 5_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/6/3/f633959e37e10277d72b763116754d1c49c80946.png)
> 
> _Rhino 7_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/a/0/1a019f9eb13fb46bce9712bc993b275b6f5a28ad.png)
> 
> _Rhino 8_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/2/c/12c7ba2b0ff7e428fd42cc94acdf93ab4e845b96.png)
> 
> _Rhino 5_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/1/6/f163d77dc22424f72a26d341874f923f1b0ad95d.png)
> 
> _Rhino 7_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/f/f/effe274a4731b263f3f50740981a78188b59c223.png)
> 
> _Rhino 8_
> 
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/d/e/7/de7948cff55351548ade77426894f3d8ec20e732.png)

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Thanks, all -  
I’ve put this on the list as [RH-78744](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-78744) Display: Curve drawing quality  
-wim

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