# Why does gumball appear so far away from the selected item?

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189>\
**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Created:** [April 1, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189 "2019-04-01T12:55:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![diana.daoud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/diana.daoud/32/145696_2.png) [@diana.daoud](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/diana.daoud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/1 "2019-04-01T12:55:22Z")

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Hi,  
I wonder why my gumball appears far away from the selected item?  
I checked and there is nothing else far away, no lines to surfaces it just randomly just appears far away.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/9/c/9c003b713d3114cb5c4774b826c07408d30f9e61.png)

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/2 "2019-04-01T13:13:59Z")

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Hi Diana - you can place the gumball where you want:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/original/3X/9/d/9d0436f6fd35d4069e052a75a3989a48969512c2.png)

When you RMB click-and-hold over the gumball, the gumball settings menu will open:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/original/3X/a/d/add7c82df9f0530d61aac06ef1c3db48e6f5615f.png)  
Clicking `Reset Gumball` should place that back on the object.

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**Author:** ![pascal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pascal/32/479395_2.png) [@pascal](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pascal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/3 "2019-04-01T15:48:35Z")

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Hello - if you `Zoom Selected` in that state, does the zoom find that one object or does it zoom out to multiple (perhaps grouped, or blocked) objects?

-Pascal

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**Author:** ![diana.daoud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/diana.daoud/32/145696_2.png) [@diana.daoud](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/diana.daoud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/4 "2019-04-01T17:58:02Z")

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it finds the object but the gumball is far away

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**Author:** ![diana.daoud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/diana.daoud/32/145696_2.png) [@diana.daoud](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/diana.daoud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/5 "2019-04-01T17:58:29Z")

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Relocate Gumball didnt help it still remains far away from selected objects

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**Author:** ![okeating](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/okeating/32/683235_2.png) [@okeating](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/okeating)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/6 "2019-04-01T18:03:02Z")

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I get that sometimes in the layout but resetting the gumball always fixes it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Brock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/john_brock/32/476283_2.png) [@John\_Brock](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/John_Brock)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/7 "2019-04-01T18:05:47Z")

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@diana.daoud  
If you can’t figure it out, please post a small sample file so we can have a look.

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**Author:** ![diana.daoud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/diana.daoud/32/145696_2.png) [@diana.daoud](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/diana.daoud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/8 "2019-04-01T18:21:28Z")

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higlight everything and the gumball will just move far away

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/5/8/58a590870a9c452f6d1693769d70452123b3cc17.png) [99.3dm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/0/2/02bb8efd0e4671e1606abd59d05a2e8e9aca3a64.3dm) (6.2 MB)

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**Author:** ![pascal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pascal/32/479395_2.png) [@pascal](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pascal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/9 "2019-04-01T18:24:54Z")

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Hm… not here so far. @diana.daoud - are you opening the exact same file that you posted?

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/c/a/ca57b3798623bebd9d101656224e2bbf318bafe5.png)

-Pascal

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**Author:** ![diana.daoud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/diana.daoud/32/145696_2.png) [@diana.daoud](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/diana.daoud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/10 "2019-04-01T18:27:05Z")

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yes I just renamed it but its the exact same file.

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**Author:** ![pascal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pascal/32/479395_2.png) [@pascal](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pascal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/11 "2019-04-01T18:31:26Z")

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> [@diana.daoud](#):
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> Relocate Gumball didnt help it still remains far away from selected objects

How about `GumballReset`, does that sort it out?  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/original/3X/0/d/0de1387226c4e3ab045b7f45e1e3c599a5155602.png)

-Pascal

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**Author:** ![ryanbreymaier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/ryanbreymaier/32/308930_2.png) [@ryanbreymaier](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/ryanbreymaier)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/12 "2021-06-04T06:35:37Z")

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I am getting this exact same issue, it just started today.

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 11:31am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/13 "2021-06-04T11:31:52Z")

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Hi -

> [@ryanbreymaier](#):
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> I am getting this exact same issue, it just started today.

We’ll need more information about this…  
Please run the Rhino `SystemInfo` command and copy-paste the result here.  
Did Pascal’s suggestion of resetting the gumball do anything useful?  
Can you provide a 3dm file?  
-wim

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/why-does-gumball-appear-so-far-away-from-the-selected-item/81189/14 "2021-06-04T12:50:50Z")

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Rhino 7 SR6 2021-5-7 (Rhino 7, 7.6.21127.19002, Git hash:master @ aec74c050f3ca28ab3cfd6882e9453a52366a9b7)  
License type: Commercial, build 2021-05-07  
License details: Stand-Alone

Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 11.2.3 (Build 20D91) (Physical RAM: 32Gb)  
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,1  
Language: en

AMD Radeon Pro 5500M OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.2.15)

OpenGL Settings  
Safe mode: Off  
Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x  
Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.  
Render version: 4.1  
Shading Language: 4.10  
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384  
Z-Buffer depth: n/a  
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384  
Total Video Memory: 8176 MB  
Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M  
Displays: Color LCD (264dpi 2x)

Graphics processors  
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)  
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M (8 GB)  
Color LCD (1792 x 1120 @ 59.00Hz)

USB devices  
Apple Inc.: iPhone  
Logitech: USB Receiver  
Apple: composite\_device  
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight  
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display  
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad  
Apple: Headset  
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor  
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)  
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices  
None

Third party kernel extensions  
None

Third party plugins  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib  
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib  
/usr/lib/log/liblog\_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import\_SolidWorks.rhp “Solidworks Import” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/import\_STEP.rhp “STEP Import” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/import\_ACAD.rhp “AutoCAD file import: import\_ACAD” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/import\_IGES.rhp “IGES Import Plug-in” 7.6.21127.1002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import\_OBJ.rhp “Import\_OBJ” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export\_XAML.rhp “export\_xaml” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/QuadRemesh.rhp “QuadRemesh” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export\_OBJ.rhp “export\_OBJ” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK\_EtoUI.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export\_SVG.rhp “Export SVG” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export\_DAE.rhp “Export\_DAE” 7.6.21127.19002  
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/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export\_IGES.rhp “IGES Export Plug-in” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import\_SVG.rhp “Import\_SVG” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export\_AMF.rhp “Export\_AMF” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import\_DST.rhp “Import\_DST” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export\_PLY.rhp “PLY - Polygon File Format Export” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import\_AMF.rhp “Import\_AMF” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR\_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.6.21127.19002  
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.6.21127.19002

Resetting did nothing. aligning to cplane did do it… I have left it for a couple hours while i did something else, and now it does not show the same problem, now when you select a curve it goes automatically to the end of the curve instead of the middle… i go back an hour later, and now the gumball is in the middle of the object, and will only align to world, not cplane…