# VSR end of Life-

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135>\
**Category:** Rhino\
**Created:** [May 4, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135 "2022-05-04T21:52:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/428 "2024-09-26T19:49:24Z")

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My recovery expert tried to make a copy of my 2TB Samsung SSD, but the drive had around 45000 read errors and for now didn’t result in a bootable copy.  
He now changed equipment (hardware? software? I have no idea) and is still hopeful to recover my drive completely.  
We’ll see. This guy worked wonders on a corrupted NAS that he completely recovered some time ago, so from what I can tell he knows what he is doing.

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**Author:** ![RIL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/ril/32/768639_2.png) [@RIL](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RIL)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/429 "2024-09-26T20:02:55Z")

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> [@norbert\_geelen](#):
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> but the drive had around 45000 read errors

This is why it’s worth trying also Spinrite (if isn’t tried already) since Spinrite tries to read data in several different ways if a read fails, aso.

Hope your data gets recovered.

//Rolf

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**Author:** ![jj1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/jj1/32/68675_2.png) [@jj1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/jj1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/430 "2024-09-26T20:42:37Z")

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Hi Norbert, maybe it is possible to convert that old workstation to a Virtual Maschine and therefore keep the License “alive” even when the hardware fails at some point… obvously the performance will be pretty bad, but better then losing it.  
Not sure if this can actually work, but wanted to try since a long time, I also have an old Maschine with some license tied to it- and i fear the day when it stops working ☹  
Does anyone here have experience with converting to VM?

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**Author:** ![RIL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/ril/32/768639_2.png) [@RIL](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RIL)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/431 "2024-09-26T21:25:44Z")

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> [@jj1](#):
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> Does anyone here have experience with converting to VM?

I’ve done this before, not to preserve VSR though. Long time ago, I don’t remember which application it was I wanted to preserve, but I recall that some other apps didn’t accept the new environment (I think it was the network device MAC adress that differed in VMWare). Things like that.

Only way to know is to try.

What more is that Rhino has to work well from a VM. Sometimes the graphic side isn’t well supported. Should be ok in newer version of VMware though.

//Rolf

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:31am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/432 "2024-09-27T08:31:03Z")

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Wouldn’t a system backup image create a bootable version of my system and all applications and files on my system drive?  
And this should work on new drives too, in case my harddrive dies.  
Or am I wrong here?

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**Author:** ![RIL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/ril/32/768639_2.png) [@RIL](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RIL)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/433 "2024-09-27T11:17:30Z")

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It should work technically, yes. But some applications validate their licenses against the hardware, like a MAC address of a Network card or the harddisk/drive it was installed and activated on.

This is where you can run into problems when cloning a system onto another disk or VM.

In short: Some **applications** may no longer work due to invalidated licenses. This is why you would have to try it top know for sure what works and what doesn’t work.

//Rolf

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**Author:** ![davidjgall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/davidjgall/32/614201_2.png) [@davidjgall](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/davidjgall)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/434 "2024-10-24T20:17:06Z")

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I am happy to report that, as of yesterday, October 23, 2024 I emailed Autodesk Support for a new activation code for my installations of Autodesk Shape Modeling Plug-In and Autodesk Realtime Renderer Plug-In (both for Rhino 5) using my existing software license after having transferred my operating system and all software to a new machine and I received the activation codes within hours of my request.

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/435 "2024-10-25T09:17:01Z")

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This is great news.  
Did you email them directly or through their website?

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/436 "2024-10-25T09:21:58Z")

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This also somewhat rectifies the whole story about how Autodesk handled the axing auf ShapeModeling.  
I can perfectly understand that they decide to not further develop a piece of software for whatever reason they see fit, I only was pi\*\*ed off that I could potentially loose access to the use of my permant license.  
So if this works then: “You did the right thing, Autodesk”

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**Author:** ![sgreenawalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/sgreenawalt/32/482916_2.png) [@sgreenawalt](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/sgreenawalt)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/437 "2024-10-25T17:19:07Z")

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Whaaaaa??? This is amazing news. That’s like, the first good thing I’ve heard Autodesk doing in a very very long time.

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**Author:** ![davidjgall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/davidjgall/32/614201_2.png) [@davidjgall](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/davidjgall)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/438 "2024-11-03T22:08:36Z")

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Sorry for the delayed reply, Norbert, I don’t check in here often. My point of contact at Autodesk is [David.Lau@Autodesk.com](mailto:David.Lau@Autodesk.com). Be sure to jump through the hoops of obtaining a “serial number” and a “product key” and a “request code” from your installation of the software beforehand. You get these items by attempting the offline activation method. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![luca1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/luca1/32/514655_2.png) [@luca1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/luca1)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/439 "2025-01-22T16:10:53Z")

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Any news? Will “Rhino 9” take any suggestions? At least the “MatchSrf” command like VSR tools.

All those moments will be lost in time,  
like tears in rain.

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/440 "2025-01-24T18:53:19Z")

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we work for you, so yes, we will always take suggestions. matchsrf is something we are actively working on.

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**Author:** ![Cadworx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/cadworx/32/478797_2.png) [@Cadworx](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Cadworx)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/441 "2025-01-24T20:18:16Z")

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Hi Kyle, great to hear there is active development going on for that tool!

Any specific plans for V9 you might share? 😃

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**Author:** ![Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/rhino_bulgaria/32/505284_2.png) [@Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Rhino_Bulgaria)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/442 "2025-01-24T21:58:33Z")

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Just a prediction:

 ![Match surface G2 - Preserve flow 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/2/9/129a3c9b175d98f2ca9dbdab51fd5e14a82b55c4.png)

G2 continuity with 3 options:

 ![Match surface keep flow](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/9/3/0/930e6dbc241729cea4c555e8a5dd8633607598f1.png)

 ![Match surface G2 - Preserve flow 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/c/3/c/c3c9a4c8b859b5226fa7d1b6ded34562c8020e14.png)

 ![Match surface 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/5/2/f52769ec6a50db84401dda8b3fbcd341103c379e.png)

 ![Blend surface handle - match angency 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/1/0/e10c29d92b5b16d9c847aa78b574919bbe6711e6.jpeg)

 ![Blend surface match edge direction](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/5/6/4/56499e53613cda1ecc2f259c0eac59389b2d5184.png)

 ![Partial surface match](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/8/c/0/8c07d562e316e98b69d229d0f4f5f42b53f690c0.png)

Imagine being able to match individual control points instead of the entire surface edge… Dreams come true.

 ![Surface match influence](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/0/9/5/095f9a25fa7fa40ac53b073e92690fd5f98ad355.png)

 ![Match control points G1 with 50% ratio](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/4/b/8/4b85c7eb66121bdeb428155969f14e0dd298b8e0.png)

 ![Match control points G2 with 75% ratio](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/c/a/1ca15fd88310eb48f0647480b73e9c7ba7bba18b.png)

 ![Match control points G2 with 100% ratio](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/9/a/5/9a574d150b7f3c40adca83e5d32d359a0f87b5ba.png)

 ![Match surface with 75 percent G2 influence](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/7/1/1713561668b9bf24f9628184942b36c5f6328d12.png)

Two separate options for “Match target isocurve” will easily fix the current ultra mega flawed single common option that matches U and V directions simultaneously…

 ![Match target isocurve direction](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/8/4/5/8450e3e4cad5da9c36c59401d4f399165ba4d3e1.png)

 ![Blend surface - Match target isocurve direction](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/3/e/8/3e8ccb9f744493ce83b897b3944bdbfe42b67088.png)

These suggestions were posted in various topics since the Rhino 5 time…

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/443 "2025-01-24T22:02:38Z")

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Never give up hope!

I’m still hoping for these:

 ![59598e2806c3179b8a72c5f84e5926bb07df687f](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/1/6/2/16250f010609bc73e695ba594c848d6ded4d8bfb.png)

 ![8d2e77f5802dd6fd45e83050d7589f3d17026b19](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/d/6/0/d6091ec3c000be93cbcb88c80411ff20afb353fd.png)

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**Author:** ![luca1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/luca1/32/514655_2.png) [@luca1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/luca1)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/444 "2025-01-24T23:33:21Z")

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I humbly beg your pardon. 😃  
Now I’m sad for doubting. I can’t wait to try out the new features!

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/445 "2025-01-24T23:56:31Z")

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everything goes into the v9 wip which you can get here-

> [@Welcome to Serengeti](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/welcome-to-serengeti/9612):
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> Serengeti is named after the largest African Savanna where Rhinos grow. Shape Rhino’s future. Try the next version early and share feedback. [Download Rhino BETA](https://www.rhino3d.com/download/rhino/beta/). As a Rhino 8 owner, you can [download](https://www.rhino3d.com/download/rhino/beta/) the weekly work-in-progress (BETA) builds. These include all current features and experiments, even ones that may never be released. You also get access to developer discussions, notes, and the issue tracker. We look forward to your input. To stay in touch with the developers, post here in [Serenge…](https://discourse.mcneel.com/c/serengeti/25)

not much to share just yet, but you are welcome to get it and follow along as things develop and get added.

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**Author:** ![Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/rhino_bulgaria/32/505284_2.png) [@Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Rhino_Bulgaria)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/446 "2025-03-06T15:40:31Z")

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Regarding the new Static zebra in Rhino 9, could someone capture a nice video where all the new options are shown and the way they affect the analyzed surfaces?

I would like to know whether the Static zebra lets the user set his/her own custom colours (set by RGB code or sliders), number of colours, and arrangement (which colour is next to the other colous). For example, here is how the Static zebra looked like in VSR for Rhino 5:

 ![VSR light lines](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/0/4/b/04bd30858c009c3a59810216378b203fc1324047.jpeg)

It used the following 8 colours (at least when I extract their RGB codes with a graphics program from this old screenshot):  
0, 50, 250  
136, 0, 250  
250, 0, 175  
250, 11, 0  
250, 200, 0  
113, 252, 0  
0, 250, 75  
0, 240, 252

![VSR light lines - 8 colours](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/b/9/fb9d70116d8d95394ff4a60e1918aba9268c854b.png)

While they provide a nice variety, as a colour blind person I have some trouble with visually separating some of the nearby colours, so the ability to set custom colours is welcome. also, think about the option to add darker thin lines to distinguish the main colours of the light lines.

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## The demo of the “Scan and solve” plug-in years ago used these colours instead, separated by thin darker lines to distinguish them better: ![Scan and solve colours](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/e/a/eeaabd602b8e8d959da49ce2562aa5fa625f1b41.png) ![Scan and solve colours 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/3/4/a/34ac828bc3f831994fa0649ca1223b7f2aee54dc.jpeg)

My custom display mode called “Light lines” uses this image as an environment map:  
[lightlines.ini](https://discourse.mcneel.com/uploads/short-url/mDFmKjnHtQELI3dPthYOye2pt6E.ini) (13.5 KB)

 ![Light lines 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/8/b/f/8bf2ce9b37f8ec02c1109f6c12a56b2d5445a992.png)

They appear lighter in the viewport:

 ![Screen Shot 03-06-25 at 05.39 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/0/8/f/08f932b6ae37b569b933c9cc606d8ef42923cd37.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/vsr-end-of-life/142135/447 "2025-03-11T04:44:41Z")

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The new zebra command does not currently have inputs for setting custom colors. That said it is possible to define up to eight different colors as inputs to the low level display code. I wrote a sample GH definition that exposes the new zebra functionality at

> [@V6 Zebra Wish](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v6-zebra-wish/41907/23):
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> Here’s a simple grasshopper definition that you can use to play with the different inputs available in the new zebra display. You’ll need the latest V9 WIP to use this. [isodraw.gh](https://discourse.mcneel.com/uploads/short-url/mYdiaPX0BGm6o2WCz7ruCWyp9Rv.gh) (41.9 KB)

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