V8 Bump Broken since ∞?

hi @nathanletwory i remember having to set RhinoCycles.BumpStrengthFactor to something much higher for this to work in v8 now the bump does not change at all, setting between bump 1 and hundred in the regular bump setting makes almost zero difference beside some slight different shading effects and tweeking RhinoCycles.BumpStrengthFactor makes also close to zero difference.

above set to Value 100

this one is set to Value 1

setting it any softer or even stronger, is basically not possible in that case, changing RhinoCycles.BumpStrengthFactor or even RhinoCycles.BumpDistance does nearly to nothing.

i tried with grid bump texture see attached but i also experimented with noise with the same effect is there anything more i can try or did you introduce some changes? this started happening in the last 2-3 versions i am not entirely sure but it might not be that long.

bumpy bump.3dm (3.7 MB)

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@andy, your changes to bump handling are being noticed.

thanks @nathanletwory, since @andy did not respond and it still is broken i wonder if anyone feels responsible for it? Rhino is unusable to render since then… neither V8 nor Wip 9 work, the bump is so heavy and exaggerated its practically useless now.

Made sure it is logged here: RH-89697 Bump mapping broken

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so guys, rendering is not very reliable since v8, suddenly (i mean not now suddenly but for a long time suddenly without fixing it properly) all the bumps are different, negative bumps were or are still missing etc. v8 looked great in be beginning but steadily went downhill with bump failing completely then it got fixed through applying obscure stuff in the advanced settings but it never looked the same as in v7. now bump is not adjustable and hung up at some arbitrary setting for many many moons already basically 5 months broken bump is strange.

so is anyone going to ever fix this? if not why not and why was it changed/broken at all, why did you not leave it as it was most functional now i have to render in the slowmo v7 to get things out at all.. its really a pity and kind of unbelievable.

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I also don’t understand why this was not solved right when the bug was discovered. When I open Rhino8 files, containing render scenes with products, that I had spent a lot of time setting up, they now look completely wrecked. I rely on producing the exact same render images as back then, of course. Since I now can’t reproduce the exact images, I now have to re-render over 1400 images instead of just adding some 100 new ones. I think this is unacceptable for any professional software. Because of this, I don’t think McNeel is in a place where they should even mention its renderer as a feature.

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