# V7 Release

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559>\
**Category:** Serengeti (Rhino BETA)\
**Created:** [September 30, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559 "2020-09-30T10:25:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Charles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/charles/32/772919_2.png) [@Charles](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Charles)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/1 "2020-09-30T10:25:23Z")

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When will Rhino 7 come out?  
A bit more than “soon” would be a nice answer…

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 10:28am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/2 "2020-09-30T10:28:28Z")

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Hi Charles -

> [@Charles](#):
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> A bit more than “soon” would be a nice answer…

We don’t really have a better answer to give you.  
How ready is Rhino 7 for you?  
-wim

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**Author:** ![Charles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/charles/32/772919_2.png) [@Charles](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Charles)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/3 "2020-09-30T10:31:27Z")

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You say there is really no schedule?  
No beginning of beta or so?

Is Rhino 7 ready now?

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/4 "2020-09-30T10:35:25Z")

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> [@Charles](#):
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> No beginning of beta or so?

There will be a beta soon.  
-wim

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/5 "2020-09-30T14:16:43Z")

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@wim  
Superior trolling! 😁

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**Author:** ![inju](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/inju/32/757991_2.png) [@inju](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/inju)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/6 "2020-09-30T14:28:06Z")

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> [@norbert\_geelen](#):
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> Superior trolling! 😁

Beta is already there! 🙂  
 ![111](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/5/3/535d3cd44da8b28799c7cb8e78d79ecd9404008a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/7 "2020-09-30T14:53:12Z")

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I just liked the answer “soon”. 🤷‍♂️  
BTW, I guess this is the closed beta, am I right?

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**Author:** ![altamiro.aj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/altamiro.aj/32/769932_2.png) [@altamiro.aj](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/altamiro.aj)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/8 "2020-09-30T15:06:22Z")

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Every owner of Rhino 6 has access to Rhino WiP (aka v7)

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**Author:** ![inju](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/inju/32/757991_2.png) [@inju](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/inju)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/9 "2020-09-30T15:18:20Z")

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> [@norbert\_geelen](#):
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> BTW, I guess this is the closed beta, am I right?

Wrong.

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**Author:** ![norbert\_geelen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/norbert_geelen/32/476003_2.png) [@norbert\_geelen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/norbert_geelen)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/10 "2020-09-30T15:23:02Z")

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I know.  
Mine says “WIP” though.  
 ![Screenshot 2020-09-30 172147](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/7/b/7bc238638319fafe8183eb0afc7e20124b487100.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/11 "2020-09-30T15:24:08Z")

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check for updates- the beta came out late last week.

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/12 "2020-09-30T15:25:35Z")

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soon-ish? 😉

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Landsaat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark_landsaat/32/693456_2.png) [@Mark\_Landsaat](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Mark_Landsaat)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/13 "2020-09-30T15:33:03Z")

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As far as I’m concerned it’s already out. XNurbs already has a version of their software that works with V7 and I’m doing most of my modeling in V7 on a daily basis. It’s a little weird to have the WIP being my go-to, but there you have it

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**Author:** ![Max3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/max3/32/493424_2.png) [@Max3](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Max3)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/15 "2020-09-30T15:52:51Z")

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I’d say it certainly isn’t done, but I’d also say that I really like the production model where you let us use the WIP while it’s being developed. It both feeds us new features and lets us learn them all incrementally.

Please keep doing this when it comes time to develop Rhino 8.

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/16 "2020-09-30T15:57:25Z")

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What do you think is not done yet? These are the issues we need to address before we release.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Landsaat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark_landsaat/32/693456_2.png) [@Mark\_Landsaat](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Mark_Landsaat)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/17 "2020-09-30T15:59:57Z")

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Numeric input/slider on BlendCrv. I’m sure other people have other wishes, but that would be a great addition for my workflow.

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/18 "2020-09-30T16:14:14Z")

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on the list!

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**Author:** ![Max3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/max3/32/493424_2.png) [@Max3](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Max3)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/19 "2020-09-30T16:14:33Z")

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It’s all nitpicky little stuff that I’ve probably mentioned before and about half or more of which ended up in JetBrains on a list to get done or explored.

on my mind today:  
Offset SubD should have a segments and straightness options dialogue like Bridge does.

Inset should have global vs local options so you can inset only the outer boundary of contiguous faces.

There are a few more situations where users should be able to control colors in the appearance options pane: off the top of my head, I recall some previews that default to black that I can’t see how to change, and that makes things rough with my black background

I think the the \_to plane option in \_align to be done with a three point plane instead of a viewport dependent plane.

…Everybody has a wish list. Not everything on mine or anyone else’s will get included. The most recent versions of the WIP feel complete and coherent. Mostly it seems pretty close to ready, and what won’t make it in will hopefully start being added to a v8 WIP. The SubD toolset is incomplete compared to competitors with a heavy SubD focus, but it’s complete enough that most of what’s missing create issues of efficiency rather than issues of not being able to draw something at all.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Landsaat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark_landsaat/32/693456_2.png) [@Mark\_Landsaat](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Mark_Landsaat)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/20 "2020-09-30T16:20:37Z")

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Thumbs up on the global vs local options on inset.

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**Author:** ![theoutside](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/theoutside/32/770924_2.png) [@theoutside](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/theoutside)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/v7-release/109559/21 "2020-09-30T16:25:53Z")

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The goal for v7 Subd was to have a solid, stable foundation of tools that allow users to start building SubD parts. The parts should be clean and easily converted to Nurbs to be used in production.

Now that SubD is a 1st class citizen of the Rhino toolset, each subsequent service release and major number update will have continued refinements and additional tools added as they become available and stable. In short, If you like it now, you will love it as it develops and matures!

SubD is here to stay, and no one is taking it away this time!

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