# Two easy view questions

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908>\
**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Created:** [July 8, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908 "2019-07-08T20:12:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![RaymondC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/raymondc/32/479388_2.png) [@RaymondC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RaymondC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/1 "2019-07-08T20:12:35Z")

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I just upgraded to v6 and have two super simple questions.

![111](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/2/e/2e215f12399cc2de756cbf6295053c279a36433b.jpeg)

#1 How do I hide the dotted outline on a circle?

 ![222](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/91b90019b403826ec78eff39e4d26e25b10e8658.jpeg)

#2 On my wireframe Top viewport, I only see a portion of the cylinders. How do I show the complete shape?

Thanks.

Ray

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**Author:** ![siemen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/siemen/32/490472_2.png) [@siemen](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/siemen)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/2 "2019-07-08T20:16:09Z")

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#1

> [@Rhino 6 - default control points visible...How to remove them?](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rhino-6-default-control-points-visible-how-to-remove-them/55344/2):
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> Go to Options - Mouse - Selecting Deselect the third box: [image] You can also use this macro (works as a toggle): -\_Options \_Mouse \_SelectionAndMiddleButton \_AutomaticPointsOn \_EnterEnd

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**Author:** ![dmoyes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/dmoyes/32/539981_2.png) [@dmoyes](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/dmoyes)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/3 "2019-07-08T20:17:43Z")

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For the circle \_PointsOff (F11)

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**Author:** ![pascal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pascal/32/479395_2.png) [@pascal](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pascal)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/4 "2019-07-08T20:23:44Z")

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Hi Ray - the object has its isocurves turned off, I would guess - check in Properties:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/5/3/537b0625b983a8dffe0c4e1c751636dfa8ef20f3.png)

-Pascal

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**Author:** ![RaymondC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/raymondc/32/479388_2.png) [@RaymondC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RaymondC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/5 "2019-07-08T20:41:17Z")

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Thanks, siemen. Exactly what I was looking for.

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**Author:** ![RaymondC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/raymondc/32/479388_2.png) [@RaymondC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RaymondC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/6 "2019-07-08T20:46:50Z")

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Pascal,

Yes, the isocurves option was off but turning it on didn’t change anything.

I attached the file in case it helps.

[123.3dm](https://discourse.mcneel.com/uploads/short-url/zIJknpAOTQ472PlZBXphlMHdJ2v.3dm) (70.3 KB)

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/7 "2019-07-08T20:52:20Z")

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> [@RaymondC](#):
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> #2 On my wireframe Top viewport, I only see a portion of the cylinders.

What you are seeing is what a cylinder looks like in wireframe: the definition circle(s) and the cylinder seam. To get more you need a different display choice.

Note: I took the word “wireframe” to mean exactly that; if the view is actually in a different mode, then I apologize.

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**Author:** ![pascal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pascal/32/479395_2.png) [@pascal](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pascal)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/8 "2019-07-08T20:59:01Z")

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Something is amiss here though. …

still poking.

-Pascal

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**Author:** ![RaymondC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/raymondc/32/479388_2.png) [@RaymondC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RaymondC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/9 "2019-07-08T21:11:33Z")

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AIW,

In v5 it used to show the complete shape.

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**Author:** ![RaymondC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/raymondc/32/479388_2.png) [@RaymondC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RaymondC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/10 "2019-07-08T21:27:17Z")

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In case it makes a difference, the two shapes in that file are circles that were extruded and not cylinders.

If I create a new circle and extrude it then the full shape shows in v6 so it seems to be a problem with opening a file that was created in v5.

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/11 "2019-07-09T12:49:28Z")

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Hi Raymond - yes, opening a v5 cylindrical extrusion in Rhino 6 seems to have that effect. I’ve created issue [RH-53724](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-53724). Thanks for reporting.  
-wim

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/12 "2019-07-09T18:49:00Z")

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Thank you for confirming and submitting the bug report. Looking forward to the fix.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/two-easy-view-questions/85908/13 "2020-11-04T17:02:43Z")

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[RH-53724](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-53724) is fixed in the latest [Service Release Candidate](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rhino-6-service-release-candidates/53358)