Truncated Detail View, R8

We just upgraded from Rhino 6 to Rhino 8. I’m going through, making sure our existing templates, etc, are updated to suit, but I’m noticing fairly often in my testing that a detail view is truncated.

Layout tab view:

What ends up being printed, using Rhino PDF. Isometric is a Pen View detail of a box in model space. Print preview showed correct output, final PDF shows below.

Any advice?

System Info is as follows:

Rhino 8 SR3 2024-1-9 (Rhino 8, 8.3.24009.15001, Git hash:master @ 3541fa287a013b0f17849f0740f1e43a44031bfc)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-01-09
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19043 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 8-4-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 536.99
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 9-25-2019 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 8-4-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3699
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoLabsTools.rhp “Rhino Labs Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 8.3.24009.15001

Hi Scott - can you post this file, or send to tech@mcneel.com, with a link back here in your comments?

-Pascal

Hi Pascal -

Sure.

LTTest05.pdf (447.7 KB)
Test File.3dm (3.4 MB)

Though it would appear I didn’t hit save, the lineweight test window isn’t present any more, though I was having the issue with the isometric view beforehand.

Hi Scott - to give you hope, here is what the latest build here prints - I think this is what you expect, right?

Test print detail truncated.pdf (70.9 KB)

-Pascal

Correct - the whole detail view should print.

Any idea as to when the latest build will drop to Service Release?

It does seem to work if I make the detail view taller at the bottom, but you’d think if the detail view showed the whole part, it wouldn’t get truncated like that…

Hi Scott - here the detail shows the whole part.
image

I’ll get you a build to try.

-Pascal

The updated build seems to work though it does seemingly reduce the silhouette thickness in the Pen view.

The view wasn’t being truncated in Rhino itself, but in the resulting PDF. Sorry if that wasn’t super clear!

Updating silhouette line thickness from 1px to 2px doesn’t seem to have any effect.
LTTest09 - Pascal Build - 2px sil.pdf (485.4 KB)
LTTest10 - Pascal Build - 3px sil.pdf (486.5 KB)

It used to be that the 1px to 2px jump on silhouette lines really made a difference. It seems that I have to jump the px width all the way up to 10px to start seeing chunky silhouettes. But this looks bad on the detail view. Maybe this is just a feature I’m using wrong, having jumped from R6 to R8?

10px silhouette lines, layout tab:

10px silhouette lines, resulting PDF:

LTTest12 - Pascal Build - 10px sil.pdf (489.7 KB)

Hi Scott -

It has always been very hard / impossible to control line width from technical display modes when exporting to PDF. DPI and page size will greatly influence this.

Thanks, I’ve put that on the list → RH-79936 Display: Silhouette corners appear broken
-wim