Tool palettes bug

Philip-

I’m sorry you feel this way and I wish it were working for you. I thought we’d done a good job reimplementing your desired behavior with LeaveFloatingPanelsHidden, but clearly I was mistaken. Since I’m completely misunderstanding what you want here - I admit I just don’t get - I’m asking for some help from others internally.

Best,
-Dan

Hi Philip, all - I believe the crossed wires here are a mixup with ‘ShowToolPalette’ which I believe is working as expcted and ‘PopUpToolbar’ which is a different thing and as far as I can see does not exist on Mac. I will ask the developer to implement that on Mac and then, assuming that goes well, I think,Philip, you will have the behavior you have been struggling for.

RH-60638 PopupToolbar equivalent on Mac

-Pascal

Yeah, me too. However, I’ve calmed down now and feel almost sorry for using that tone…

Yes, I appreciate that you tried… but it doesn’t work the way I thought it should - as I tried to explain earlier (May 13).

In other words… Having LeaveFloatingPanelsHiddenOnMac set to true does not give us the same behaviour as in V6. Anyway… I think you can forget about this - I’ve already using workarounds for it.

Well, I tried to explain it from a users point of view, but obviously I wasn’t successful with my not so perfect English.

Philip

In case it helps and Finnish works for you (wild guess) you could also explain once more in Finnish here and I’ll try my best to translate. If you’re more into Swedish then I’m sure @marika_almgren or @maxsoder may be able to jump in.

Yes, it doesn’t exist the same way as in WinRhino, but on MacOS we have used a macro to achieve the same thing (“_ShowToolPalette _ToolPalette=Popup _UnderCursor=YES _Enter”) - and it has worked just fine in V5 and V6 (= like in WinRhino) - but not anymore.

Thanks! Either that - or, if possible, make the above macro work like the popup in Windows.

Philip

Hehe, thanks Nathan! Both Swedish and Finnish would be fine of course. However, when I think about it, perhaps I’m just not so good at explaining things in an easy and understandable way to a developer… Might not be a language thing after all.

Philip

Hi Philip - yeah, I see that it used to be different, and I do not know why, but still, it seems to me the popup command should be implemented on mac so that it all actually works the same way on both if we can do that.

-Pascal

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That would be the best solution, yes.

Philip

I have the PopUpToolbar command just about ready to go, yo might want to try the following macro as a test:

_ShowToolPalette _Toolpalette=Popup _Visible=_Yes _UnderCursor=_Yes _AsMenu=_Yes _Enter

Hi @JohnM! The macro works as it should, but I would like to have the popup as a toolbar (like in WinRhino) and not a menu. See pictures. Possible?
Thanks!

Screenshot 2020-09-25 at 12.03.56

Philip

@Philip

_ShowToolPalette _Toolpalette=Popup _Visible=_Yes _UnderCursor=_Yes _AsMenu=_No _Enter

will give you just the tools icon

You can get it to display a tool palette on Mac but it won’t dismiss when losing focus like you want. There is some very special code to do that on Windows that does not currently exist on Mac.

Thanks @Akash, but no - that’s not it. That macro works exactly like my old one (the popup is reappearing). This is not what it does in WinRhino and MacRhino V6.

Philip

Thanks @JohnM… So that means we’re back to square one? It’s not possible to have the popup work like in WinRhino and MacRhino V6? I’m sorry, but I think that from a usability point of view, that’s a regression from V6 - even if it technically is a result of a bug fix.

Philip

I am confused. PopupToolbar is the new (for mac) command that should (does here) behave exactly like on Windows. No need to mess with ShowToolPalette at all.

-Pascal

Now I’m confused also :thinking: New command…? How new? It doesn’t seem to work here on 7.0.20266.16016, 2020-09-22 (PopupToolbar is an “unknown command” here). You must have a newer version. Anyway, that’s good news!
Thanks!

Philip

Hi Philip- I guess that should be in the beta from yesterday. Assuming that went out.

-Pascal

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Hmmm, doesn’t seem to work here in Version 7 BETA (7.0.20273.15004, 2020-09-29). Now it’s a command, yes, but Rhino still asks about “tool palette to pop-up” - and “popup” seems to be the wrong answer - I still get the menu, not the tool palette. So if I run this macro: _PopUpToolbar PopUp I get the menu. Still confused :thinking:

Screenshot 2020-10-01 at 17.52.13

Philip

Hi Philip,
I have the exact same problem with my Pop- up Toolbar in Version 7 Mac (7.0.20314.03002, 2020-11-09). It was not behaving like this at the beginning. Did you find a solution to your problem?

Martin

Hi Martin! No, sorry, I don’t have a solution to the problem. I have my pop-up toolbar permanently floating around (and always getting in the way). I guess we just have to wait for a working (Windows-like) pop-up toolbar…

I really like V7 - there are many great, new features - also smaller important tune-ups - but not having the pop-up working as in V6 (even if it wasn’t a “real” Windows-type pop-up) is, in my opinion, a major setback and workflow regression. I’m very disappointed, to be honest…

Philip