# The sides to my model are not being displayed. Any guesses why?

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**Created:** [May 4, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-sides-to-my-model-are-not-being-displayed-any-guesses-why/123621 "2021-05-04T14:40:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![mark19](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark19/32/302355_2.png) [@mark19](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/mark19)\
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The sides to my model are not being displayed.

The top and bottom are OK.  
The front and back are OK.

Any ideas?

[Plaga Design Studios - Cube Maker V2.2 Alpha - ShapeDiver](https://app.shapediver.com/m/plaga-design-studios-cube-maker-v2-2-alpha).

Thanks in advance,

Mark

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**Author:** ![pavol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pavol/32/206581_2.png) [@pavol](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pavol)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-sides-to-my-model-are-not-being-displayed-any-guesses-why/123621/2 "2021-05-04T14:54:16Z")

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Maybe you didn’t connect all outputs to the ShapeDiver Display component or some transformations just didn’t work. Maybe some geometry isn’t internalised, maybe it’s hidden or maybe it’s not there at all!

I could keep guessing but posting a [minimal definition](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/how-to-get-support-on-the-shapediver-forum/81054) replicating this would help hugely to get to the bottom of this 😉

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**Author:** ![mark19](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark19/32/302355_2.png) [@mark19](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/mark19)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-sides-to-my-model-are-not-being-displayed-any-guesses-why/123621/3 "2021-05-04T15:39:55Z")

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It displays correctly in Grasshopper, using Shapediver output.

Here is a different but not as feature rich version that works correctly.

[Plaga Design Studios - Cube Maker v.1 - ShapeDiver](https://app.shapediver.com/m/plaga-design-studios-cube-maker-v-1).

Ill see if I can post a minimal version of the grasshopper file that is not working.

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**Author:** ![pavol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/pavol/32/206581_2.png) [@pavol](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/pavol)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-sides-to-my-model-are-not-being-displayed-any-guesses-why/123621/4 "2021-05-04T15:49:29Z")

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This could be an ordered list issue, see following posts for more details:

> [@Display bug 2](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/display-bug-2/107801/5):
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> Make sure you use data trees instead of flat lists too keep your model organised. Order of lists can vary between computers or Grasshopper versions due to tolerances and other factors and this may have affected the transformations in your model. You can learn more about optimisation process in [this article](https://www.shapediver.com/blog/optimizing-grasshopper-definitions-explained/) and the webinar below covers details of working with transformations. More resources can be found on [our blog](https://www.shapediver.com/blog/category/shapediver-basics/) or [video channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMaHgpQ9wKpv30VevxiAfcQ/playlists).

> [@Hole in model becomes solid in Shapediver](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/hole-in-model-becomes-solid-in-shapediver/109285/4):
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> Things can go wrong if you use Deconstruct Brep and similar components as the resulting element list order may vary between computers as explained in [this blog post](https://www.shapediver.com/blog/optimizing-grasshopper-definitions-explained/) or tutorial below: This video can also give you some ideas how to build your model in more reliable and efficient way:

The best practices of data management are covered in these video tutorials:

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/d/9/5/d95fd1f0f4b486d871804f436a824d3daffc8968.jpeg "Optimizing Rhino Grasshopper Definitions | Pt. 3: Send Data To Online Apps!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K45_Z_gB6YU)

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/4/e/2/4e20a7bfd243c238706d9179ee55077633bbd117.jpeg "Rhino Grasshopper Pro Tip: Avoid Simplifying Data Trees!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DNYJAcoD5E&t=323s)

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/f/b/fb003f67d4e787cbb12342020179cf65451ca964.jpeg "How I Keep My Rhino Grasshopper Definitions Organized | 4 Productivity Tips!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvYG7S0N-3E&t=3s)

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**Author:** ![mark19](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/mark19/32/302355_2.png) [@mark19](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/mark19)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/the-sides-to-my-model-are-not-being-displayed-any-guesses-why/123621/5 "2021-05-04T16:02:10Z")

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Pavol,

Thanks, I’ll take a look at those resources.

Mark