Surface edges not displaying

Rhino Rhino for Windows
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The display style I want (visible edges) V7

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The style I got:
V9

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V8

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Reset to default won’t help.

Summary

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: Radeon Pro 560X (AMD) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-28-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.14761 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL 21.30.45.18 30.0.13045.18005
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 6 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 1
Primary OpenGL: Radeon Pro 560X (AMD) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-28-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.14761 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL 21.30.45.18 30.0.13045.18005
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 6 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60
Driver Date: 7-28-2023
Driver Version: 30.0.13045.18005
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Rhino 3DM File Version (aa091cb2-d8c0-4944-a17d-b66c80bec4ca)\7.0.7639.20582\RhinoFileVersion.rhp “Rhino 3DM File Version” 7.0.7639.20582
C:\Program Files\Cyberstrak\R7\CS_ModelingPlugIn.rhp “Cyberstrak Modeling PlugIn”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 9.0.24212.12005

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 9.0.24212.12005
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”

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Hi @Piotr,

Just a quick check,

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Is this setting on?

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This could be 1 reason that your not seeing surface edges

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If possible, could you share your file. I could check if there are showing on my device.

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Hi @Piotr,

Thank you for the file, I see that you have a layer called glass, which also has a Opacity property.
Can you test with making that one “solid” again? If I remember correctly I had some trouble with that in the past as well.

I am seeing surface edges, but it might be that my Rendered display mode is different then yours.
I might also miss some textures?

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(file opened on Rhino 8 SR10)

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are there any driver updates available for that card?

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Unfortunately not:

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Can you repeat it with a simple example as well or is it specific to that file? In any case a sample file will be helpful, maybe Jeff has one of those cards.

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Interesting…
New file has the edges displayed correctly:

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Object to the left is a Ghosted mode, the one to the right is a render mode with simple glass applied.

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Something must be going on inside the file.

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@Piotr there is definitely something odd going on with edges when there are transparent objects in the scene.
I’ve added RH-83229 Edges are not displayed correctly with transparent objects

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@Piotr this issue seems to have been introduced in 8.9, if you want I can send you 8.8 which does not have this issue (but note that in that build there is an issue with clipping planes and GPU tesselation)

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Nah, I’m OK (so far).
Mine and my company’s major tool is still V7, but thanks.
P