SubD discussion

Yes.
I think there will be a lot of users in that boat.
Some will upgrade to V6 and keep using V5 and T-Splines as you have described.
Others will skip the V6 upgrade altogether.

It up to us to provide tools that our users want.
In this case, T-Splines was swallowed by Autodesk and that has left T-Splines users in a bind. This is not the first time this has happened and probably won’t be the last.

Now that Carl Bass has been shoved aside at Autodesk and replaced with a business guy, I suspect Autodesk will become more focused on shareholder return and less on how well their tools work.

Time will tell.

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@John_Brock

So that’s a yes to having V5 and V6 installed at the same time on the same computer???

The reason I keep banging on about this is that I seem to recall a mention earlier that this would NOT be possible.

Thanks, Steve

Confirmed.
Currently, on my Windows 10 system, I have Rhino V4, V5 32 and 64-bits, and a daily updated V6 WIP.
When V6 is released, I will not be able to have the V6 WIP and a released V6. However, I will have a new WIP that will produce V7.

Fabulous! Thanks John.

Steve

As long as you remember you still would own a single concurrent use license. Upgrading a single license from V5 to V6 does not result in 2 licenses that can be run on different computers simultaneously, but we would have no issue with have both your upgraded V5 and V6 on the same system.

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Got it John. I only have two arms :wink:

guys/developers
where can i test the subD tools
i would love to see the workflow with grasshopper in mesh BASE shapes!!
thnx

what the hell? why would a company like Autodesk shut down one of the most essential modelling plug ins ever created?

Because they implemented it in their own software Fusion 360…

what a disgusting company,

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McNeel is too small to develop new geometric modeling kernel. It will remain small because it wants to remain employee-owned company. All we can expect from McNeel is nice user interface and good technical support. The best way to solve this problem is new anti-trust legislation - businesses developing geometric modeling kernels (Parasolid, ACIS, T-Splines, etc.) and computer operating systems (Windows, macOS, etc.) should not be allowed to make other kinds of software. In other words, Autodesk and Microsoft are monopolies and they should be broken up.

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Hey Jorgen,
We’re looking to do exactly this for V6 (make SubDFromMesh a test command and leave it in the product.) That’s pretty much all you’ll get for V6 though as SubD will be a major focus for V7 development.

Your pleas have not gone unheard :slight_smile: Have a nice weekend

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This is one of the reasons I like Rhino so much.

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Now that’s certainly good news for V6!
…and thanks for not letting me know until now because if you had told me three weeks ago I would never have taken the time nor had the motivation to fight through the process of making a mesh sub-d version for V5… :wink: That knowledge will surely benefit in refining the mesh tools I already have made.

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Ok, I have read everything twice and I am still confused. Are we all getting a free cup of coffee with v6 or not?

Hey, thanks, will this ship with all new licenses or will it be sent with updates only?

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Mhmm - V7. I will sadly be a retired person in 5-7 years, when V7 will roll out :slight_smile: Just joking. I know you do your best and will be coming up with the best solution, when it’s ready and tested. Still I’m sad it will take some more time :confused: Best Klaus

Can was it is necessary to make a plug-in of Sub-D and to develop it as GH - is so more convenient. And then users of Rhino 5 could use him! :wink:

I don’t agree. While I have no problem with having Sub-D as components in GH in the future, it is not a substitute for having the functions directly in the Rhino interface without having to go through GH - which is a programming interface, not a modeling UI.

–Mitch

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I don’t suggest to build Sub-D in GH :wink:
For example PanelingTools - has established and has received the additional Sub-D toolbar.