Standard colours: Is brown really brown?

This is a very minor annoyance, but I think it might be worth bringing up. Since Rhino 6 was introduced, the brown colour in the standard colours looks more like red to me. Is it just me? Does anyone else see an actual shade of brown?
I know how to change the colours, and I’ve been doing it for quite a while now, but every service release has reset this colour. I was hoping in Rhino 7 that either the colour would actually be brown, or the file that controls the colours would not be overwritten with every update. But it’s still the same. With over 130 users it’s not practical to keep re-copying the colour configuration file every month when a SR is released.

Thanks,

Dan

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Hi Dan - it’s always been more red than brown to my eye. Does rgb 147 91 79 look better? If so, or even if not, (pending any change here) you can change it in

“C:\Users\USER_NAME\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Localization\en-US\Support\colors.txt”

Give me a nice brown rgb that you like and I’ll put it on the pile to tune up. I don’t want this question
Is brown really brown?
to keep me up nights, now that is has been asked.

-Pascal

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Yeah definitely. All that came from various combinations of RGB ‘1/4 fractions’ of 255:

255/191/127/63/0

If you’ll note all the original colors on the ‘front page’ of the color picker are combinations of those.

The ones in the ‘brown’ section of the color picker near the bottom are not too bad… depending on if you like milk or dark chocolate. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Edit: RGB 130/85/30 looks good and easy to remember…

You know my preference.
The HSV sliders put the default Brown rgb ,191,63,63 definitely in the red camp. Whereas the Browns are over among the oranges, hue wise. I think we can tune this up…

-Pascal

Yep indeedy… Hope to be able to bring some by one of these days… :exploding_head:

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@DanBayn , @Helvetosaur - how does this look to you? rgb 184, 94, 29 I also added it to the middle of the Brown range:

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RH-62542 Colors list: make the brown more brown

-Pascal

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Fits in the range nicely. Still looks a bit ‘orangey’ to me, but that’s a matter of personal taste I guess.

Thank you @pascal ! Yes it´s a very minor annoyance, but it also triggered me since the very beginning haha

Clemens

Hi Pascal,

That looks very close to the brown I’ve been using. I like it.

Thanks,

Dan

I think we should should use the W3C standards
https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_names.asp

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Interesting that in that set, ‘Brown’ is back at red - like what we have now, that everyone (here) finds…annoying. ‘Saddle Brown’ though has the same hue as our ‘other’ browns.
You’re right, though, we’ll probably get flack too, if we make it too non-standard.

-Pascal

I vote saddle brown as the better brown.

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I would vote for saddle brown as well.

Why not leaving the color and changing the name from Brown to Dark Red? We already have Green / DarkGreen, and Blue / Dark Blue. Having Dark Red would help to organize stuff by base colors.

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Brown is weird. It’s orange in context. Brown; color is weird - YouTube

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Any standard that includes “Indian Red” should be ignored.

Right but, orange, not red… it is just plain weird to call #A52A2A ‘brown’, especially if all the other browns in our list are orange.
Jess’s way may be a good way out - hmm - except ‘dark red’ exists in that W3C list… or simply putting ‘Saddle Brown’ in the list where Brown is now, and relegating that red version of brown to an un-named place among all the other reds further down the list. That way we won’t break any naming conventions.

-Pascal

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Why?

Racism.

Indian red is a pigment, a variety of ocher, which gets its color from ferric oxide, produced in India.[2]

Check your facts first.

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