# Rotate about an item in perspective tumbles it out of view V8

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**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Tags:** windows\
**Created:** [March 8, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980 "2025-03-08T17:34:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/steve1/32/487081_2.png) [@Steve1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Steve1)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/1 "2025-03-08T17:34:25Z")

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Hi,  
Perspective view.  
draw a circle in perspectuve view at origin, RMB and rotate about it. V5  
Do so in V8 and it goes off screen !  
Draw a cube in V5 and RMB rotate about it, in V8 disappears off screen with same light moves.  
drag the box in V5 much further away from origin, deselect it, RMB and it rotates about it. in V8 whoosh its gone immediately.  
what setting do I need in V8 as I am sure I went through properties matching all settings V5 to v8.

Cheers

Steve

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/2 "2025-03-08T17:50:20Z")

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This is Rhino 8:

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/3 "2025-03-08T17:55:48Z")

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and my V8  
draw circle, RMB to rotate it.

  
Steve

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/4 "2025-03-08T17:59:15Z")

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Select the circle, then zoom selected (ZS) Does it get better?

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/5 "2025-03-08T18:03:56Z")

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Where is that command ?  
Type Zoom and no zoomselected, look at magnifier dont see such.  
I have always been able to zoom in and just rotate rmb around it in V5.  
ah I see you wrote ZS  
type that and it zooms i then deselect it and RMB and it rotates and foesnt fly away.

But in V5 i just zoom in and out all day long to things and rotate.  
no typing needed as I move about the scene.  
it rotates about what I have zoomed into, no selections needed.

Steve

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/6 "2025-03-08T18:09:06Z")

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If you have a file you can share that rotates correctly in Rhino 5 but not in Rhino 8, I could log the issue.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/7 "2025-03-08T18:15:45Z")

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Hi,  
it seems to be the non zoom selected items rotate more wildly in V8, the same amount of mouse movement sees them wandering around the screen but remain in view, in V8 the same movement and they are gone.  
I will have to spend more time doing tests so as to demo this.  
I am just not getting anything built !

back to V5 again

Steve

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/8 "2025-03-08T18:19:34Z")

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Hard to say why you are seeing different things than me, without a file I can only speculate.  
I created a file with a wrong focus point, saved it out as Rhino 5 and compared. I don’t see any difference in mouse behavior between Rhino 5 and 8.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/9 "2025-03-08T18:28:49Z")

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await my tests when I et a spare day

Steve

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/10 "2025-03-10T09:35:25Z")

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Hi Steve -

> [@Steve1](#):
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> await my tests when I et a spare day

In the meanwhile, you could enable the following advanced setting in Rhino 8:

> Rhino.Options.View.RotateViewAroundObjectAtMouseCursor

-wim

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/11 "2025-03-10T14:27:53Z")

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Hi,  
Thanks Wim,  
If I do that I will not manage to see whats going on, comparative to V5  
HOWEVER that setting will enable me to do what I want and give what should happen anyway, for if anyone tumbles the view, they normally expect the item of their attention to be rotated about, not vanish !  
which generally, ( item remains in view ), is what happens in V5.  
so perhaps V5 had that set into its soul, and V8 developers lost sight of it, (pun !)  
one more hurdle over on the road to using V8 at last.

Just the line quality and opening dims to solve.

Cheers

Steve

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/12 "2025-06-24T13:28:32Z")

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> [@wim](#):
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> Rhino.Options.View.RotateViewAroundObjectAtMouseCursor

@wim  
Trying to go over to using V8,  
and view is whipping around going off screen unlike V5 where item rotates about my cursor by default.  
I see this,  
and go to v8 settings, and cannot find it in there.

 ![view object going off screen setting missing v8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/6/7/f67bdfce0b5af59906396edba4f98e7e43e65906.jpeg)

Steve

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/13 "2025-06-24T15:13:03Z")

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> [@Steve1](#):
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> and go to v8 settings, and cannot find it in there.

It is an “Advanced” option.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/a/5/ea502ee7d56f934a65def0b1acf52a84a5951dac.png)

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rotate-about-an-item-in-perspective-tumbles-it-out-of-view-v8/200980/14 "2025-06-24T22:51:07Z")

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Hi,  
Thanks.

and now I need to let off steam.

 ![Rhino 8 setting rotate about cursor buried VERY DEEP in advanced not advanced off view menu](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/f/9/8/f982d73eea3288b578400afbfa253c19d8bda57d.jpeg)

what the ‘rude word’ is that doing buried deep in the bowels of Rhino, miles of scrolling spotting for a line of code like wording.

IT SHOULD ROTATE ABOUT CURSOR BY DEFAULT, AS IT DID IN V5.  
NO ONE WANTS THE OBJECT TO WHIP AROUND AND GO OFF SCREEN,  
One of those things you expect from the get go.

One should be able to install V8 and have things that are expected, to actually happen.

I would rate rotating an object around the cursor in the top 5 of expectations.  
along with select colour is as default yellow, and lines dont look like ants crawling along them.

Just who decided to bury it deep in not even the view or interface settings, but amongst that lot,  
one would never ever find that.

when one installs V8 it should ask questions on what basics you wish, and apply the settings, I know one prog that did that.

Still solving basic things trying to get operational in V8.  
went back to V5 today and everything worked, a great feeling.  
Grrrrrrr.

Steve