@kitjmv, I understand you can scroll through tabs with the scroll wheel, but the tabs need “focus” to do this correctly. If you click on the tab it will “focus” it, and you’ll be able to scroll.
We shouldn’t require “focus” for this
No, not at all, at least not on Windows since this fix, which is also the behavior of Rhino 7, the toolbars do not need focus to scroll with the mouse wheel; the pointer just needs to be above them.
In his videos, we agree that the focus is on the viewports:
for Rhino 7:
for Rhino 8:
Note that this only applies to containers placed on the right and left sides of the window and only when the mouse cursor is over the buttons of the container.
Ok I’m following along now.
Mouse wheel scroll should activate when the mouse is hovered over the panel, but does not currently, only works when over the tab itself
Yes, that’s it (and only for the containers on the right and left sides of the window).
If you take a container from the right or left and place it at the top, it works.
Thanks David.
The default color UI should have been a well designed and thought-out color. If we delegate everything to the user to customize, it wouldn’t be good UIUX design.
The dark gray bars are way too constrasting and at first glance I thought I was looking at some redacted FBI documents.
Some great UIUX guidelines about colors and constrast I pulled from the internet.
Contrast is a great way to direct the user’s attention to specific elements. High contrasting colors can quickly communicate context and guide users to focal points. However, too much contrast can make a UI difficult to scan. So, striking a balance and testing your design on different screens is essential.
Rhino 7 material editor has only 1 color tone - grey.
Whereas the Rhino 8 material editor has yellow, dark grey, sharp red, light grey and oversized icon.
I hope you guys can see the light in this.
@stevebaer @CallumSykes
I’ve created this YouTrack for it
https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-83952/Cannot-scroll-through-tabs-unless-cursor-hovering-over-tab
We rewrote the whole UI for Rhino 8 so there is bound to be issues that need improvement. The contrast is hard to get good by default. Some like more contrast in order to see better what is important in the screen. Some people do not want anything to jump out in the UI. I agree that the contrast is too high, maybe a few steps lighter would be good? I made a YT issue about this. RH-83954 The contrast of the content ui’s are quite high.
We also added more icons to the UI. The idea is to provide more functionality to user so that one does not need to click as many times to do things. In Rhino 7 there is a button with three dots and we got complaints that it is not descriptive enough and we started to use the folder icon instead. The folder icon is used in Rhino in general and it is more consistent to use it in every place instead of a three dot button.
Hello,
In Rhino 7, we could add a toolbar very quickly:
In Rhino 8, it’s more like a step-by-step WinForms procedure from the 20th century:
What is better in Rhino 8 is that we can choose the RUI file in which to create the new toolbar.
I think this dialog should not require adding a button to create a toolbar.
Currently, I have to do Option > Toolbars > Edit > New Toolbar > [Ok]
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This is slow, very, very slow, but I can create a new empty toolbar in which to start moving or creating buttons.
It’s what I call the “clown panel” these days so I guess it fits with the overall (lack of) style in Rhino.
I mean, you could have designed the new UI to use a base color, and then text box backgrounds, scrollbar backgrounds, buttons, etc used a value shift to pop out, and then the user could tweak a single constrast slider to get everything adjust in one go instead of individually selecting colors like back in Windows 95, but what do I know…
Btw, har vi faktiskt en Svensk som jobbar på McNeel numera?
Inte riktigt, men nästan :). I am from Finland, but my mother language is Swedish. There are actually two more persons that have Swedish as their mother language and working with Rhino. I am the guy that has implemented all the rendering panels and content panels (Sun, Lights, GroundPlane …). I have been working for 9 years (Rhino6-7-8) on these so all feedback is welcome. Especially negative so that we can improve.
@maxsoder @CallumSykes @stevebaer
The hover color for the button is also too dark imho. I am not a fan of the blue border when hover, which reminds me of the first few generations of internet explorer where the links are all highlighted blue.
Just out of curiosity, does McNeel have any UIUX designer?
If you take reference of other proven sucessful UI interface like Google or IOS, you can see how lightly a hover color is compared to its default state. With UI designs, less is ALWAYS more.
@DavidRutten I expect only one person, but for Grasshopper