Hi!
New Rhino 8 is much faster in 3D view (except ghosted where regularly crashes) but the interface is very slow. For example, typing the name of a layer in the search field takes 3-5 seconds to work. Snap options are also very slow (1-2 seconds). I have a fast i9 computer with 64Gb, SSD, new graphics card with the latest drivers. Can I do something regarding the slow interface or it is a bug that will be solved?
Thanks!
Igor
hello Igor,
this is not the normal/expected behavior,
let’s start with running _SystemInfo in Rhino and post back the results.
Hi!
I send you systeminfo.
Rhino 8 SR2 2023-12-12 (Rhino 8, 8.2.23346.13001, Git hash:master @ dbefe46c12cda06610a9ab683a211aa3d16f0030)
License type: Evaluation, build 2023-12-12
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2024-02-05
Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64Gb)
.NET 7.0.15
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 10-26-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.01
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 10-26-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 8 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 10-26-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-26-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.4601
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino 6 & 7\SnSPro_Rhino_6+7.rhp “Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Geometry Gym\Rhino8\ggRhinoIFC.rhp “ggRhinoIFC” 2.1.22.0
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.2.23346.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”
Thanks!
Hello Igor,
I think i face the same problem with Rhino 8 . A massive delay when enable or disable or just ticking the modeling aids (filter, osnap, gumball etc,).
Is it possible to solve this?
Thanks in advance
Panagiotis
Hi Igor -
I’m not seeing any crash reports from you. Does the reporter pop up when Rhino crashes?
I’ve put this on the list as RH-79843 Layer: Slow search box
Could you provide more details about this? Is this something that I could try in a new file with just a simple box or is this file-specific?
Hi Panagiotis - Please run the Rhino SystemInfo and copy-paste the result here.
Does that also happen in a new file from a factory-default template with no objects in it?
-wim
Hello Wim
Thanks for the reply,
Usually happens in files with objects in it (for example in a file 100MB), not in empty files.
When tick for instance the end osnap the tick icon appears in the box after 1 second. As you can realise its impossible for me to work properly.
I send you the System info
Rhino 8 SR3 2024-1-9 (Rhino 8, 8.3.24009.15001, Git hash:master @ 3541fa287a013b0f17849f0740f1e43a44031bfc)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-01-09
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
.NET 7.0.15
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 6-8-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 536.23
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 6-8-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3623
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.3\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp “NVIDIADenoiser.Windows” 0.4.3.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.3.24009.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
@Panagiotis.M can you verify if it works any better when the layer panel is not visible?
A bug regarding this was fixed recently RH-79587 Layer: Layers panel visible slows down OSnap checkboxes
@Gijs Indeed !!! when i hide the layer panel there is no delay!!!
But obviously i need the layers open …
This it will be fixed in the next update ?
here is the most recent in house RC that should contain a fix for it
@Gijs It seems works properly!!!
Thanks a lot for your Help!!!
Best,
Panagiotis
Thanks for help!
@igor.gojnik Does that build solve the layer search delay you reported as well?
No, unfortunately!
I still have a problem with a very slow layer search. I have more than 100 layers in the file, but this is the case when you need a layer search.
Igor
I think I need a sample file that shows this behavior. Pls upload it here
I made a test file with 1300 layers and search is still snappy. I do see a delay when all layers start with the same name, e.g. layer_###, and then typing layer will be slow.