Rhino 8 Crashing Frequently

Rhino
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Hi Wim,

Here is a step by step:

  1. Opening new Rhino file
  2. Creating layers “1” and “2” and assigning two rectangles (or whatever else) to each
  3. Launching Grasshopper through command line (new file)

Back in Rhino the following problems happen:

a) When trying to change the hidden state of a layer in the layers window, the little lightbulb icon doesn’t change from “on”.
b) When trying to add new layers to the table via the little pie icon, the window does not display new layers being added (saving and re-opening the document shows new layers- "Layer 01, "“Layer 02”, etc. and Rhino works as expected without GH being opened)
c) Double-clicking the layer name reliably crashes Rhino. I did this step 3 times and the crash report window didn’t even come up.

System Info:

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-9-10 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24254.15001, Git hash:master @ d3c11108eae09fadc146928ba51b9b182a05303f)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-09-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.7

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 128MB, Driver date: 1-18-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #2
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 9-5-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 561.09
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-5-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6109
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6141 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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Hi Andrei -

Could you please post a screenshot of the Grasshopper interface?
-wim

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Grasshopper Screenshot
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Hi Andrei -

Thanks. I count 25 non-standard plug-ins. I’d use the GrasshopperLoadOneByOne command to disable all of those and see if you then still can reproduce the issue. If you can’t, you’ll need to selectively load those plug-ins to see which one causes this.
-wim

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I’m experiencing random crash with GH1 files as well, since all the “non stardand” plug-ins I have installed haven’t changed, can be that rhino’s updates the problem???

I konw you guys can’t look at every plug-in, but I don’t understand why plug-ins need to be excluded in order to find the problem.
If rhino works fine without them, what can I do if i can’t use a plug-in that worked well before the update?

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It’s not to solve the problem, it’s a first step to troubleshooting an issue.

If you have repeatable crashes with specific Grasshopper files and have checked that this does not happen with a previous SR of Rhino 8, then that would be information that we need to get.
-wim

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unfortunately they are random…

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Hi Wim,

Thanks for that- I thought that might be the problem.
I’ve isolated it to Fologram.

-Andrei