# Restoring a cplane fails to see anything happen

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053>\
**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Created:** [April 16, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053 "2015-04-16T14:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/steve1/32/487081_2.png) [@Steve1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Steve1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/1 "2015-04-16T14:56:16Z")

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Hi,  
V5  
I have saved three cplanes, all of which fail to see any change happen when selecting them, either via the save cplane box or in the cplane drop down list. I seem to recal hopping in and out of them the other day. and seeing changes happen on screen.  
I am in the default view at the mo, but unable to go to a saved cplane.

I have relaunched Rhino but no joy.

Furthermore creating a new planar sheet on my object sitting at 2 oclock on my circular item, then using cplane three point on it sees nothing happen in ortho views, only in perspective view do I see the grid aligned, yet in the past ortho views would change. setting top to top, etc doesnt make any difference, also world top sees no change.

Steve

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**Author:** ![SamPage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/sampage/32/479519_2.png) [@SamPage](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/SamPage)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/2 "2015-04-16T15:20:26Z")

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Perhaps the CPlane changing but the view is not? If you have Universal Cplanes set, the view updates when you change a CPlane, if you are using Standard CPlanes, only the CPlane changes, the view stays the same.

Sam

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**Author:** ![Steve1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/steve1/32/487081_2.png) [@Steve1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Steve1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/3 "2015-04-16T15:25:12Z")

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Hi Sampage,

sounds like the reason !

I go to views in properties but see no options for universal though  
Now to find where that is set. View seems the obvious place, wish properties had a search engine !

Steve

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**Author:** ![SamPage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/sampage/32/479519_2.png) [@SamPage](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/SamPage)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/4 "2015-04-16T15:27:13Z")

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Rhino Options -\> Modeling Aids -\> Construction planes

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**Author:** ![Steve1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/steve1/32/487081_2.png) [@Steve1](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Steve1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/5 "2015-04-16T15:31:27Z")

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Hi, you just beat me to it, and yes, I see changes 😄  
Is there a way to set such things to be default so whenever I open a new rhino project they happen ?

I also always have perspective view properties set to parallel, allows deeper accurate zoom etc, yet each time I restore perspective view its back to perspective.

I also would like to have my custom dimensions always there at the start, not have to bring them in.

No doubt its in level 1 somewhere, when I get to ever have time to start my longed for re-reading.

Steve

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**Author:** ![SamPage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/sampage/32/479519_2.png) [@SamPage](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/SamPage)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/restoring-a-cplane-fails-to-see-anything-happen/19053/6 "2015-04-16T15:35:58Z")

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> [@Steve1](#):
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> Is there a way to set such things to be default so whenever I open a new rhino project they happen

You might try under Rhino Options → General → Command Lists: Run these commands every time Rhino starts

```
_NoEcho _-Options ModelingAids CPlanes=Universal Enter Enter

```

> [@Steve1](#):
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> I also always have perspective view properties set to parallel, allows deeper accurate zoom etc, yet each time I restore perspective view its back to perspective.

Rhino Options → View → Named Views, clear the check mark for Named views set projection.

> [@Steve1](#):
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> I also would like to have my custom dimensions always there at the start, not have to bring them in.

Create a file the way you would like it to open, save it, then under Rhino Options → Files → Template files, point the Default to the file you just saved.

Sam