Regression: Hide Container Grip Dots When Docked

[AndersDeleuran]

Hi McNeelies,

I find these container “grip dots” quite visually distracting/bloaty compared to the minimal Rhino 7 GUI. Would it be possible to hide them when “Locked Docked Containers” is turned on? Alternatively, turn them off entirely?

Rhino 8 BETA:

Rhino 7:

Best,

Anders

[Charles]

@AndersDeleuran

“grip dots”…
hide them when “Locked Docked Containers” is turned on

Next regression.
Yes, the grips have to hide when containers are locked.

[Gijs (Gijs de Zwart)]

@AndersDeleuran

Alternatively, turn them off entirely

you can sort of turn them off by tweaking this color:
Rhino.UI.ThemeSettings.Frame.GripperDot

[AndersDeleuran]

That does help a bit with the visual distraction, but the added padding is still there. In Rhino 7 the gripper padding goes away when Lock Docked Windows is turned on:

Lock Docked Windows = Off:

Lock Docked Windows = On:

While in Rhino 8 the grips/padding remains in docked mode:

I much prefer the minimal/no wasted pixel look of docked Rhino 7. It would be great to have Rhino 8 look/behave the same.

[inno]

I also would very much like bith padding and dots to disappear when Lock Docked containers option is enabled, it’s SUPER distracting

[AndersDeleuran]

Casually bumping this one too.

[stevebaer]

I misinterpreted the request and added an advanced option that may work for now. This setting may change in the future, but give it a try for now to see how you like it.

Rhino.Options.TabPanels.MouseOverGrippers

Changing this will hide the grippers at all times unless the mouse passes over them.

[AndersDeleuran]

@stevebaer

I misinterpreted the request and added an advanced option that may work for now. This setting may change in the future, but give it a try for now to see how you like it.

Cheers Steve. Just gave it a quick go and this new settings appears to hide the four dots, but not the actual gripper box/area/padding. Where in Rhino 7 the whole things disappears when “Lock Docked Windows” is enabled:

If it’s not possible to get the less bloated Rhino 7 behaviour back, perhaps making the gripper box as narrow as the old one would at least make the issue less. Also, as apparent from the video this feels like it might be (at least technically) related to this regression:

Regression: Right Sidebar Headers/Labels

Hi McNeel, In Rhino 7 a docked right sidebar does not have headers/labels above the tabs: [2023-10-20 14_52_20-disappear at DuckDuckGo — Mozilla Firefox] While Rhino 8 now has these superfluous labels in docked mode: [2023-10-20 14_47_11-Rhino BETA - Perspective] That disappear when the containers are made floating: [2023-10-20 14_50_13-Rhino BETA - Perspective] Can you please add an option to also hide these labels when containers are docked? Thanks and best, Anders

[John_Brock]

Moved over to Rhino category

[PowerShape (MR_Rhino)]

Hi @brian
Simplify interface when locked
RH-80525 Please make this in V8 .The ride is very long in V9.
@Gijs Thank you very much for your efforts

[AndersDeleuran]

@stevebaer

Rhino.Options.TabPanels.MouseOverGrippers

Changing this will hide the grippers at all times unless the mouse passes over them.

Hi Steve, I just noticed that this setting does not affect all grippers:

[stevebaer]

Those grippers will be gone in general when floating soon. I also got rid of the entire gripper area for docked sections in 8.13 (unlocked on left and locked on right)

[AndersDeleuran]

Whoooah, that is fantastic news! Thanks so much Steve. You rock

[Charles]

@stevebaer

Those grippers will be gone in general when floating soon. I also got rid of the entire gripper area for docked sections in 8.13

Oh yeah!
Thank you!