Query Model Layer + Value Picker is freezing with a bad layer


  • blank Revit project

  • RIR 2025 WIP daily build:

  • Starting a fresh GH file

  • Placing a Query Model Layer + Value Picker

After loading a 3dm file, the routine kept freezing until I sorted out and eliminated the bad layer "Parete Divisoria grigliato 2". I could not find why the layer is a bad layer. See the attached 3dm files.

By comparison

  • EleFront Reference byLayer+Value List (expanded to Checklist) kept working even with the bad layer. It seems less picky.

See the comparison between the “Bad Layer” where the Value Picker of the Query Model Layer is frozen and the “Good Layers” which is working.

01_Full Layers List.3dm (1.3 MB)
02_Good Layers.3dm (1.3 MB)
03_Bad Layer.3dm (1.2 MB)

Hi Roberto,

Poking around in the Full Layer list file i am not able to make anything freeze. Are there other steps I should be taking?

Can we get your Rhino systeminfo? I’m on a newer version of Rhino but not aware of any changes that would affect this. Thanks

Oh, that’s surprising! Could it be a localization issue? Let me recover the data about Rhino that you need, brb.

I do nothing more than what you see in the screenshot. The file is the same, the components just those two. The Revit file is a new one.
The picker is frozen, pointer spinning.
If I delete the layer, it works normally.

Rhino 8 SR6 2024-4-10 (Rhino 8, 8.6.24101.05001, Git hash:master @ 32c244aa711e0034e75bec2e87d093c764820b96)
License type: Commerciale, build 2024-04-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 8.0.4

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-26-2019 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 3-12-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.86
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-12-2024
Driver Version:
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\rb\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.3\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp “NVIDIADenoiser.Windows”
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Users\rb\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\PanelingTools\2021.3.2.446\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.6.24101.5001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Lets disable this Rhino for troubleshooting

If you go to File>Properties>Updates you can a newer version of Rhino by subscribing to the Service Release Candidate

Rhino 7 is not installed anymore. The datasmith installer probably has a bug and it left a plugin in a Rhino7 old folder. I disabled it and removed as you suggested.

I then installed the SRC and voilà! the grasshopper component does not freeze anymore on that specific layer. Cool, but I’m now wondering why :smiley:

P.S. I still can’t install the current daily release of RIR: