Popup Toolbar Seems Limited to 4 Icons

Greetings,

I can’t figure out how to make the Popup Toolbar display more than four icons.

As shown in the picture, I can only get four of them, with the rest only accessible as an extension (an arrow on the left), which is quite annoying.

I would be grateful for any suggestions or solutions that you can provide.

Rhino 8 Latest Version

Could you run the command SystemInfo in the command line of Rhino and past all popup contents here ?

Thank you.

Here it is:

Rhino 8 SR20 2025-6-6 (Rhino 8, 8.20.25157.13001, Git hash:master @ 73b00899cf43922900a763212f167c03dc6f27cc)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-06-06
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 127GB)
.NET 8.0.17

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 2-28-2025 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #2
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A5000 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 6-12-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 573.42
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 6-12-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7342
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Chaos\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V8\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Users\aaa\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\D5LiveSync (e0d5e210-02f6-4ee9-a2b0-1675e225d958)\D5Conv.rhp “D5 Live Sync for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Lands.rhp “Lands Design”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Users\aaai\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew_V8.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.20.25157.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Could you try to run Reset command in the command line of Rhino and check following two options? Thanks.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Will I lose my plugins permanently if I perform these actions?

see this video-

once you populate the toolbar with more tools and resize it, it should stick.

Thank you, Kyle, but… bizarrely the very last icon still remains outside the toolbar


I think it would be very helpfull with a shorter version of this video created on Rhino 8 for Mac OS The icon-editing in the end is VERY different and sometimes Rhino 8 crashes (on Mac OS), if you try to make a copy of a tool from a toolbar (by using this exact method) while a command is active.

Ideally this will all get updated again for v9 as the toolbar system is getting a lot of attention to fix problems arising from the v8 rewrite

No worry, and you will not lose it.

@GThib it looks like the separator is not taken into account for the size of the popup
RH-88241 Popup size is not taking separators into account

Any chance you could look into the issue where Rhino on Mac OS crashes when you copy a command from and to a toolbar, while being in an active command?

is this any command or one or more specific commands?

can you list the exact steps you are taking so we can see if we can repro it?

also can you please post your systeminfo

Many thanks Gijs - indeed it was a culprit.
A removed a separator and the toolbar returns to normal.

@Erazmataz I looked into it yesterday and made Rhino crash, but nothing that I could reproduce at will. That report is sent to our crash tracker. It’s helpful if you send crash reports when this happens. And like Kyle mentioned, if you have steps to reproduce this issue that’s even better. We’ve solved a few of these toolbar crash bugs the last few weeks. If we can reproduce the crash it will be handled with high priority.

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Hi @Gijs
This is how you can CRASH Rhino 8 SR20 on macOS every time: 1) TurnOn UseCommandOptionsDialogue in Options. 2) Restart Rhino 8 SR20. 3) Turn the MainToolbar on again if you’ve lost it. 4) Drag’n’drop a copy of any tool from ANY toolbar to the Standard-Toolbar in the top, or any other toolbar AFAIK. // Tim


@Erazmataz thanks. I could not reproduce the crash in 8.22, where 2 of those issues were fixed. I’ll send you a download link to the latest internal in case you want to try that out. (For testing, it is not necessary to first install this version, simply download the installer, and double click to launch it)

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Thanks. I don’t see the crash happening in the DuJourBuild on mac OS Ventura. I will test on a newer version of mac OS later this week.

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