PDF'd Text not Horizontal to View


#1

The new output to pdf is really rough. If the text is oriented to the view it’s fine but when the text has to be converted by the pdf because it’s at an angle the file is big, slow, and not as accurate to view. Is this known or considered an issue or have settings to change? I use adobe pdf as exporter then I overlay the pdf text onto a jpeg in InDesign to get the final product. Below are examples.
PDF text Rhino 6.pdf (1.4 MB)
PDF text Rhino 5.pdf (313.7 KB)
PDF text Rhino 6 Oriented to View undesirable effect.pdf (920.0 KB)


#3

Its a tough pill when updated software doesn’t work as well as prev version


#4

Is this considered an issue by the Rhino team? Seems like a big deal to me, that’s pretty crappy downgrade from the last version of Rhino


(Pascal Golay) #5

Hi Jason - I don’t have a real-world file with specific results that I’m looking for but I can print text that is skewed to the view and it looks as I expect here so far -

TextAtAnAngle.pdf (5.5 KB)
TextAtAnAngle.3dm (29.4 KB)

Would that be a test of the problems you’re reporting?

-Pascal


#6

Your text is pretty clean in that file you provided and that is what I’m referring to (the text viewed at an angle). Can you try a serif font, Pascal? You did see what I was talking about…the jagged text and huge file size increase?


#7

i took your 3dm file and made some pretty clean text myself. Let me get a file ready of mine and let you look at it please.


(Pascal Golay) #8

Hi Jason - here’s another - TimesNewRoman_TextAtAnAngle.pdf (18.4 KB)
I’m not 100% sure that I see the problem in the V6 based file you posted -

That bit at least looks about right, to me - but I’m not sure I know what I’m looking for.

-Pascal


#9

Thanks, please check out my file when I get it ready.


#10

If its not too much trouble, can you print this text to pdf and see how clean it is. For me, this file definitely makes the text cumbersome, jagged, and increases the file size compared to a 5 file thats pdf printed. There is a definite difference in my v5 printed pdfs and v6 printed pdfs.

angled text example.3dm (2.1 MB)


(Pascal Golay) #11

Hi Jason - here you go - I see the text over on the sides is not oriented correctly but that is how the file looks as well.

angled text example.pdf (346.5 KB)

-Pascal


#12

You can’t see the difference in the first files I provided? Compare my v5 example to the v6 example without zooming in, there is a clear difference in the text. Also the file size of the v6 pdf text is about 5 times bigger than the v5 text. I’m having trouble scrolling through my finished pdf files they’re so clunky


#13

Thanks Pascal.
Yes sure it is text and is legible but there is a stark difference in that and v5 output. The v6 is very jagged and the file size is huge. Do you not see that in my first examples?


(Pascal Golay) #14

Hi Jason - what print driver are you using in 5 and 6? What happens if you set 6 to use the same print driver as 5?

-Pascal


#15

Its the same Adobe PDF printer driver


(Pascal Golay) #16

Have you tried the Rhino PDF driver in V6? Same thing, or?

-Pascal


#17

I just now tried it. It may be a little cleaner but still a big difference from v5


(Pascal Golay) #18

So, these are all the same, if you zoom in enough but not at a normal zoom - is that an example?

-Pascal


#19

That looks similar to my problem Pascal. I may have to apologize…I just printed on my co workers machine on v6 and it printed a pdf beautifully. I really don’t know what the deal is with my machine. If it turns out my machine is the perptrator then I am sorry for wasting your time, it was just that it seemed to change right when I upgraded. Here’s a comparison of my pdf vs my coworkers pdf if you zoom in you can see the difference. I don’t know, sorry if I have wasted your time.

Mine my.pdf (540.1 KB)
Coworkersbonsack front upper rhino pdf.pdf (1.6 MB)


(Pascal Golay) #20

Hi Jason - no worries but let’s sort out what the difference is - can you run SystemInfo in Rhino and post the results?

-Pascal


#21

My PC

Rhino 6 SR11 2018-12-10 (Rhino 6, 6.11.18344.20091, Git hash:master @ d3871e1724fc30d4dcb18cd1911c7ad439d0c93d)
Licence type: Commercial, build 2018-12-10
License details: Cloud Zoo. In use by: jasonh ()

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 64Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-JASON

Quadro K2000/PCIe/SSE2 (OpenGL ver:4.5.0 NVIDIA 353.62)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.5
Shading Language: 4.50 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-22-2015
Driver Version: 10.18.13.5362
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2 GB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.11.18344.20091
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.11.18344.20091
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Alerter.rhp “Alerter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.11.18344.20091
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 6.11.18344.20091
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.11.18344.20091
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros 6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”