# Paneling question

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989>\
**Category:** PanelingTools\
**Tags:** windows\
**Created:** [February 15, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989 "2022-02-15T15:21:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![cwreckord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/cwreckord/32/647256_2.png) [@cwreckord](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/cwreckord)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/1 "2022-02-15T15:21:47Z")

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Hi there, I am trying to create the body of a hummingbird with feathers paneled on it.  
I have created both my grid and surfaces based on the Paneling Tools Workflows for Rhino and Grasshopper Tutorials on youtube. I am almost there. There are two issues that I would like to solve.  
I wonder if it is possible to shift the grid so that it is an offset grid?  
Also my objects are oriented incorrectly by 90 degrees on the grid. I assume that is a fairly easy fix.  
Thank you in advance!  
[hummingbird.3dm](https://discourse.mcneel.com/uploads/short-url/9LKOGsGRNwksqVEHUQZrwQM8S5V.3dm) (16.5 MB)

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**Author:** ![rajaa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/rajaa/32/770789_2.png) [@rajaa](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/rajaa)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/2 "2022-02-15T17:02:44Z")

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The 90 degree issue may be solved by rotating your module 90 degrees?  
What do you exactly mean by “shift the grid so that it’s an offset grid”? Can you include a skect of what you are thinking?

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**Author:** ![cwreckord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/cwreckord/32/647256_2.png) [@cwreckord](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/cwreckord)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/3 "2022-02-15T17:35:35Z")

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Thank you @rajaa! Your tutorials were very helpful to get me this far!  
I will try rotating the module. As far as an offset grid, what I am going for is

 ![hummingbird feathers](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/2/0/5/205f002f14cca0a33d3cd008b6d3b5392747ec26.jpeg)  
The feathers tiled like hummingbird feathers, sort of overlapping but in a grid where the center of each subsequent line of tiles is under the end of the line before it.  
 ![offset grid](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/3/7/e3742d96d7a9c844288e40ed78d90bc31029ceb9.jpeg)  
but perhaps also using a diamond tile pattern would work? I tried to see if I could get a diamond pattern with the 3D paneling tools and did not see that option, only in the 2d paneling tool options.  
Thank you!  
Courtney

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**Author:** ![cwreckord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/cwreckord/32/647256_2.png) [@cwreckord](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/cwreckord)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/4 "2022-03-03T10:30:45Z")

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Hi again @rajaa ! I am still a bit stuck on this. Any advice would be appreciated!  
Thank you!  
Courtney

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**Author:** ![rajaa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/rajaa/32/770789_2.png) [@rajaa](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/rajaa)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/5 "2022-03-08T18:39:26Z")

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Hi @cwreckord  
One way to do that is to use ptPanelGridCustom (or ptOrientToGrid for 3D) and use different base with shift to alternate the distribution of your pattern. See an example here and let me know if this is helpful.

> [@AutoCAD Custom Pattern (Paneling Tools)](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/autocad-custom-pattern-paneling-tools/137311):
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> I have been trying to figure out a quick and easy way to convert a fairly complex 2D pattern drawn in AutoCAD to a format that is pasteable into the Panel Connections dialog (paneling tools) (Test Persistent data) as opposed to typing out several lines to coordinates. I have linked the DWG format (ACAD 2018) file below and would be grateful should anyone offer any kind of advice, particularly if there is a third party app that can do the conversion. Many thanks.

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**Author:** ![cwreckord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/cwreckord/32/647256_2.png) [@cwreckord](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/cwreckord)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/paneling-question/137989/6 "2022-03-09T20:45:38Z")

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Thank you @rajaa ! I will check it out!