We have a set of Rhino plans for a ship. We would like to use the same plans with different annotation sets for:
Large Blueprints with full detail.
Large book with reduced detail.
Visitor Guides with even less detail
(and differences in text size).
Is there some approach to do this with as little pain as possible. I am wondering if anything has changed or someone has come up with a solution to this.
Hi John -
I’m reading this as you’ve done that in the past and ran into issues. What are the pain-points you are experiencing?
-wim
I have the basic diagram that has multiple layers of detail that have to be turned on and off.
For each document type I have additional layers of annotation. There just seems to be a large mass of layers in one place.
Hi John -
That sounds like you are not placing annotations in layout space but rather in model space? That would make this task harder, yes.
-wim
The first thing that comes to mind would be to have sublayers under a main annotation layer.
For production drawings, have your dimensions, text, leaders, etc. on “Production-Full Detail.” Copy the dimensions that you want to keep for the book into “Docs-Reduced Detail” - this will allow you to turn off the production layer in details when you go to print your book, while also allowing you to select all of the text on the “Reduced Detail” layer and change properties all at once. Same thing for the Visitor Guides layer; copy the text/annotations you want to that layer.
Edit: though I see you’re having issues with many, many layers. In that case, each of the “Production”, “Docs”, and “Visitor Guides” layers could be parents to further sublayers that you could collapse and turn off.
And it had been suggested previously NOT to use blocks for the common elements.
Then there are sublayers beyond that. There are callouts and text of different sizes. And then multiple annotations styles for each type of document.
By way of illustration, here is a structure plan. There is much data encoded here that is not visible, such as dimensions, reference, and annotations. There are about 70 layers, of different things to turn on and off.
It would be disable to export a selected set of layers, then be able to have different annotations in a clean file. This might come out as a pamplet guide with routes traced and limited details. It might be a book with more detail It might be a full sized plan loaded with detail. The placement of labels could vary with sizes.
If I do this as a block, I get the 50-60 layers when I import. I would be desiable to have only one layer that turns everything on and off other than the annotations.
As I see it you have two choices.
Best one is using Layouts. All your CAD data is in model view, and all your drawing will be in layout tabs.
Create a layout tab with detail views and in a detail view show a view from your model space. Key Point, this will give you a visible view on you project. Do not double click on the detail view unless you want to change something in model view, Layout allows you to create notes lines, text… On top of your detail view without showing them in your model view. If this sounds interesting you will have to dig deeper in this as it is a big subject,
Perspective view
Note: layout tabs for this project are along the bottom
Top Arm Layout tab
The detail view layout are view ports of your models space but you can annotate on top of without is appearing in you modelspace.
It’s a much easier and clean way to work once you get the hang of it. For a point of reference this file has over a hundred layer in it.
Plan B Layer states.
When you have your model view layering showing how you want it, save the layerstate. Make a new layerstate for each view you are trying to create (layerstate saves the on/off status of your layers). When you want, you can restore one of your saved layerstates back
I will look at this.
also have a look at
LayerStateManager
