Modeling questions, modeling surface

can I ask how to model a shape like this how to control surface, is it from a box and adjuct the points what’s the clearest way to do it, also this shape, thank you

Establish a suitable patch layout. Use simple curves and build simple surfaces. Use overbuilding where appropriate. Fillet only when your primary and secondary surfaces are good.

What exactly is your problem? Try to formulate what you want to do differently. Uploading the file is always a good idea.

I’d be remiss if I did not take every chance I could to recommend Skys primary surfacing videos-

these will change your modeling for the better-