# Middle Click Popup

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903>\
**Category:** Rhino\
**Tags:** windows, rhino8\
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903 "2024-10-12T13:04:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MAJID\_DOOST](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/majid_doost/32/650840_2.png) [@MAJID\_DOOST](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MAJID_DOOST)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/1 "2024-10-12T13:04:13Z")

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Hi Guys,  
I have updated Rhino 8 and the Middle Click Popup has change to a narrow long vertical window. And when trying to re-size it it goes back to the narrow state. Any ideas? Or anyone has dealt with Middle Click popup toolbar. In rhino 7 this tools was more stable but in 8 it is not. The manual resizing was not effective from day one.  
Regards  
Majid

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**Author:** ![Gijs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/gijs/32/769882_2.png) [@Gijs](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Gijs)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/2 "2024-10-12T13:06:30Z")

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Hi @MAJID_DOOST  
Which pop-up toolbar have you assigned to the MMB?

Pls also run \_SystemInfo and post back the results.

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**Author:** ![MAJID\_DOOST](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/majid_doost/32/650840_2.png) [@MAJID\_DOOST](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MAJID_DOOST)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/3 "2024-10-12T13:23:32Z")

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> [@Gijs](#):
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> un \_SystemInfo

Hi Gijs,

I have a customised toolbar (RUI) collecting all frequently used tools and through the tools / mouse I assign it to my middle click. Never had problem with Rhino 7 moving from one computer to another.

Here is the System Info.

Rhino 8 SR12 2024-10-8 (Rhino 8, 8.12.24282.07001, Git hash:master @ 2f42167325d83e0da0f3fe08e796c2b26e602bc5)  
License type: Evaluation, build 2024-10-08  
License details: Cloud Zoo  
Expires on: 2024-12-02

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 127GB)  
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.  
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 10-4-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.58  
\> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0  
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings  
Safe mode: Off  
Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On  
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x  
Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation  
Render version: 4.6  
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA  
Driver Date: 10-4-2023  
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3758  
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768  
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits  
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768  
Total Video Memory: 16380 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino  
C:\Program Files\Veesus\Rhino\Rhino8\Veesus.rhp “Veesus Point Clouds for Rhino” 2024.3.8941.20140

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk\_etoui.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MPlane.rhp “MPlane”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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**Author:** ![xkdsofa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/xkdsofa/32/633650_2.png) [@xkdsofa](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/xkdsofa)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/4 "2024-10-12T14:47:36Z")

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I also encountered the same problem. Both laptops 8 and 9 have this issue where the middle button pops up as a vertical strip, while 7 can record the strip style of the middle button popping up,

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**Author:** ![Gijs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/gijs/32/769882_2.png) [@Gijs](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Gijs)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/5 "2024-10-12T15:04:17Z")

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Thanks,

The issue is known and high o. The list of things to fix.  
For now see if this workaround helps:

> [@Resizing pop-up toolbar](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/resizing-pop-up-toolbar/147505/136):
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> that would be to add icons to the default popup container, at least on Windows. Here I see this if it is not a customized container: Edit: sorry that actually doesn’t seem to work: [RH-84106](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-84106) Changes to the popup container don’t stick Edit2: @MattE maybe this could work for now:

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/6 "2024-10-12T21:38:49Z")

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Same problem, that fix isn’t working here. Hope the fix is quick, this makes my work process incredibly slow.

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/7 "2024-10-12T21:40:55Z")

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The weirdest thing is that my custom toolbar pops up as the tall, single-button-wide toolbar, but if I click the bar to anchor it, it immediately looks correct again.

 ![pop2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/2/8/2/282cc2f895c46ae0cfe6f354b779bbcf7eaf2d29.jpeg)  
 ![pop1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/4X/e/8/5/e850ff1cbf58bb80f2ca380608ff2a90d350118c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/8 "2024-10-12T21:45:02Z")

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I don’t remember, can you roll back to a previous version easily? This is painful. 😜

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**Author:** ![Gijs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/gijs/32/769882_2.png) [@Gijs](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Gijs)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/9 "2024-10-13T09:00:06Z")

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@heath van you post your \_SystemInfo  
I might be wrong, but I am not aware that this is something that was broken recently.

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/10 "2024-10-15T20:19:50Z")

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Rhino 8 SR12 2024-10-8 (Rhino 8, 8.12.24282.07001, Git hash:master @ 2f42167325d83e0da0f3fe08e796c2b26e602bc5)  
License type: Commercial, build 2024-10-08  
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 63GB)  
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.  
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (NVidia) Memory: 24GB, Driver date: 9-5-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 561.09  
\> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)  
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0  
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1  
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #2

Secondary graphics devices.  
AMD Radeon™ Graphics (AMD) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 10-3-2022 (M-D-Y).  
\> Accelerated graphics device with 5 adapter port(s)  
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings  
Safe mode: Off  
Use accelerated hardware modes: On  
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On  
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x  
Mip Map Filtering: Linear  
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation  
Render version: 4.6  
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA  
Driver Date: 9-5-2024  
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6109  
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768  
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits  
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768  
Total Video Memory: 24564 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino  
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.0.3.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk\_etoui.rhp “RDK\_EtoUI” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.12.24282.7001  
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”   
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/11 "2024-10-15T20:20:56Z")

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First time I have ever had this issue. Started when I said yes to “update ready, install now?” or whatever that prompt is when you close rhino and there’s an update available.

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**Author:** ![Gijs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/gijs/32/769882_2.png) [@Gijs](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Gijs)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/12 "2024-10-15T21:22:54Z")

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@heath could you run \_Reset, hit the “Save settings for support” and send the resulting zip to me by pm?  
thanks!

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**Author:** ![heath](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/heath/32/597930_2.png) [@heath](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/heath)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/13 "2024-10-16T21:30:55Z")

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Done. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gijs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/gijs/32/769882_2.png) [@Gijs](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Gijs)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/14 "2024-10-17T08:14:56Z")

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> [@heath](#):
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> The weirdest thing is that my custom toolbar pops up as the tall, single-button-wide toolbar, but if I click the bar to anchor it, it immediately looks correct again.

now logged as:  
[RH-84339](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-84339) popup toolbar size is off with text button

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**Author:** ![MAJID\_DOOST](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/majid_doost/32/650840_2.png) [@MAJID\_DOOST](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MAJID_DOOST)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/15 "2024-11-22T06:27:07Z")

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Hi  
I have updated Rhino 8 today and still have the middle click pop-up size issue. Any other updates coming soon?  
Regards  
Majid

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**Author:** ![CallumSykes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/callumsykes/32/569341_2.png) [@CallumSykes](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/CallumSykes)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/16 "2024-11-22T07:02:46Z")

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I’m still working on this one @MAJID_DOOST

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**Author:** ![MAJID\_DOOST](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/majid_doost/32/650840_2.png) [@MAJID\_DOOST](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MAJID_DOOST)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/17 "2025-02-17T12:35:16Z")

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Hi Support Team,  
Any update on this one? It is getting very frustrating having this middle-click pop-up issue. Jus recently update no changes yet.  
Regards  
Majid

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**Author:** ![vcruzdesigns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/vcruzdesigns/32/710097_2.png) [@vcruzdesigns](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/vcruzdesigns)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/18 "2025-02-21T21:34:51Z")

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I would like to second this. l prefer to use Rhino 7 on my personal laptop, but I have to use R8 on my work laptop and it’s still annoying to not be able to resize any popup toolbar. It really hinders the flow and messes with my spatial memory of where certain buttons should be. Could we have a fix for this out sooner rather than later please?

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**Author:** ![MAJID\_DOOST](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/majid_doost/32/650840_2.png) [@MAJID\_DOOST](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/MAJID_DOOST)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/19 "2025-08-05T02:33:15Z")

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Hi Team,  
Is this issue resolved. I still have that weird long pop-up menu with middle click.  
Majid

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**Author:** ![CallumSykes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/callumsykes/32/569341_2.png) [@CallumSykes](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/CallumSykes)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/middle-click-popup/192903/20 "2025-08-10T17:59:31Z")

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Hey @MAJID_DOOST,

Not yet, as you can see in the ticket it’s marked Open. When the ticket is completed this thread will be updated automatically with which version it is fixed in 🙂.

I hope to fix these issues soon.