Mac: Beachball....beachball...beachball

Selecting tools, simple actions like straight polylines are are nearly always followed by a second or two of beachball. It’s really an agony. Rhino has never been so slow.

Any clues?

Rhino 7.10 working a 64Mb file

Mac mini 2018
3.2GHz 6 core I-7
8GB memory 26667 MHz DDR4

Hello - please run the SystemInfo command in Rhino and copy/paste the results here.

If you can add more memory to your box, that is where I would start, in the meantime.

-Pascal

Rhino 7 SR10 2021-9-13 (Rhino 7, 7.10.21256.17002, Git hash:master @ 68677dc86520a0de9485d8b8fa2e841e757733f3)
License type: Commercial, build 2021-09-13
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 11.6 (Build 20G165) (Physical RAM: 8Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: Macmini8,1
Language: en-US (MacOS default)

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (OpenGL ver:4.1 INTEL-16.5.2)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: Intel Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1536 MB
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 630
Displays: Thunderbolt Display (109dpi 1x), Thunderbolt Display (109dpi 1x)

Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
Thunderbolt Display (2560 x 1440)
Thunderbolt Display (2560 x 1440)

USB devices
Apple Inc.: Apple Thunderbolt Display
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Display)
Apple Inc.: Display Audio
harman/kardon: SoundSticks
Apple Inc.: Apple Thunderbolt Display
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Display)
Apple Inc.: Display Audio
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices
Apple: Apple Wireless Keyboard
Broadcom: Magic Mouse 2

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.10.21256.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.10.21256.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.10.21256.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.10.21256.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.10.21256.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_OBJ.rhp “Import_OBJ” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_XAML.rhp “export_xaml” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/QuadRemesh.rhp “QuadRemesh” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_OBJ.rhp “export_OBJ” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_SVG.rhp “Export SVG” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_DAE.rhp “Export_DAE” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_IGES.rhp “IGES Export Plug-in” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_SVG.rhp “Import_SVG” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_AMF.rhp “Export_AMF” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import_DST.rhp “Import_DST” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PLY.rhp “PLY - Polygon File Format Export” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_AMF.rhp “Import_AMF” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.10.21256.17002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.10.21256.17002

I’m back to 20 second beachballs again. I went away for a few weeks, returned and updated Rhino and resumed a project and it’s almost unworkable. The last fix worked perfectly, but now I’m bogged down completely by spinning beachballs.

Version 7 (7.17.22102.05002, 2022-04-12)

Any help appreciated. Thanks, Nick.

Adding:

Rhino 7 SR17 2022-4-12 (Rhino 7, 7.17.22102.05002, Git hash:master @ 13b57035af8fb22da005ef72c56e4555d9dbcfe3)
License type: Commercial, build 2022-04-12
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 12.3.1 (Build 21E258) (Physical RAM: 8Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: Macmini8,1
Language: en-US (MacOS default)

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (OpenGL ver:4.1 INTEL-18.5.8)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: Intel Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1536 MB
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 630
Displays: Thunderbolt Display (109dpi 1x), Thunderbolt Display (109dpi 1x)

Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
Thunderbolt Display (2560 x 1440)
Thunderbolt Display (2560 x 1440)

USB devices
Apple Inc.: Apple Thunderbolt Display
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Display)
Apple Inc.: Display Audio
harman/kardon: SoundSticks
Apple Inc.: Apple Thunderbolt Display
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Display)
Apple Inc.: Display Audio
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNetwork.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomePubSub.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomeStreams.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.17.22102.5002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.17.22102.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.17.22102.5002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.17.22102.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.17.22102.5002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.17.22102.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.17.22102.5002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.17.22102.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.17.22102.5002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.17.22102.5002

That computer is never going to run Rhino well because of it’s inadequate Intel 630 GPU.

You might try resetting your PLIST to see if that helps:
https://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/mac/resetprefs

Unfortunately, the new M1 Macs have their own serious problems with V7.
V8 will improve that a lot but it’s many months away.

Thanks.

I’ll try that out. (It was all working fine on the same file a few weeks ago before I went on a trip but now it’s really bogged down)

Nick.

I threw out what looked like two preferences files: “com.mcneel.rhinoceros.7.plist” and “com.mcneel.rhinoceros.plist” and rebuilt my prefs from scratch. A definite improvement while working on a 770Mb file.

Thanks!

the second PLIST is shared by V5 and V6.

John,

FWIW After exploding blocks to surfaces, then rejoining and grouping, I re-imported a suspect 56Mb STEP file into my drawing. Somehow the beach-ball paralysis has gone and things are fine now. I suspect there was some sketchy data or bugs in the file that was really dragging on my work.

It’s all good now thanks!