Attached is an example of typical output, aimed at humans rather than machines. NDA’s get in the way of other, perhaps better, examples but we’ll live with it.
Within the working space of the drawing.
(i.e. everything you see that’s inside the innermost line of the drawing border)
Everything here was produced entirely within Rhino and didn’t use Layouts. The reason for that was (at the time) getting output in PDF and a cross-platform CAD standard (usually dwg or dxf) is a must for almost all of the clients I do work for and Layout couldn’t do that, along with (sometimes) a 3D model in STEP or whatever. Perhaps things have moved on, but from recent offline discussions with Pascal about parts balloons there is still a lot of work to do. V6 has more problems than V5, from what I’m seeing and reading.
My work is very varied: Bespoke helical staircases for the building trade, vehicles like the attached PDF, train interiors,livery drawings, Point of Sale, injection mouldings - all kinds of stuff. The above are the universal deliverables and are a core requirement, irrespective of the industry. Please get those sorted before you start on the industry-specific niceties.
Imagine that I’ve sat here for a few minutes waiting for Make2D to trot out the views you see in the PDF. Fine; apart from some parts where it has (literally) lost the plot, I can live with that - perhaps half an hour spent retouching and I’m good to go. Layer control of the results largely works and it’s fairly manageable. I model in the assembly arrows as lines or surfaces prior to Make2D. Exploded views are a pain and have to be manually pulled apart, which means a separate model which then needs to be kept in sync. with the master model. There’s work that’s been done on that more recently and things have improved in that area. I’m not sure if they are fully developed.
Callouts (the parts balloons) are universal. In Rhino, they have to be done manually and are extremely time consuming, especially if you’ve got lots of them and need to move them around to get everything to fit without the leaders overlapping. If you have to move one, the easiest way is to delete the leader, reposition the balloon and text and draw a new leader because it can’t maintain it’s perpendicularity to the balloon. Do that a few hundred times and the novelty soon wears off. A tool to treat the balloon, text and leader as one editable item that maintains alignment would be a massive help. Making it intelligent, populating the balloon text by pulling pre-defined user function off of the item that the leader tip touches would be a step forward. Options to: Have the balloon auto-resize (as an obround) to suit the text; have different shapes of balloons - round, rectangle, hexagon etc - to enable use as a means of identifying types of parts classes; assign these preference to layers. Layers are old school but much maligned in my view. They are extremely flexible and can be used and abused in many ways. They can be all things to all men with a bit of lateral thinking.
Display order: Again, provide the ability to link to Layers. Add a column to the Layers panel where one can assign numerical order to display. A radio button at the top of the column to invert the order, should the need arise. Don’t make it dependent upon their order in the Layer panel. There’s too much other functionality that people rely on in other areas where that is concerned.
Section Tools: Assign sections to sublayers of the objects they section by default. Sublayer for the fill/hatch; another for the section outline. Move the linetype and fill definitions for anything that’s ‘Section’ to a distinct column in the Layers panel, then allow Select All or whatever at the top of the column so that their collective line type, colour and and weight can be set at a stroke, or even turned off. Individual Section layers can still be tampered with to suit the user’s need. Yes, this will make the Layers panel grow considerably, but it would make perception and control of what’s going on a lot easier for us Humans. Make sure that whatever Sectiontools does produces the same appearance in both PDF and dxf/dwg exports. This is critical. Maybe svg too for a little bit of future proofing.
Associativity of the 2D to the master 3D model: The elephant in the room, as @osuire puts it. Imagine I have to change the trailer hitch in that PDF, two months after first issue. And update all of the affected 2D 2D drawings downstream of the GA. Resetting viewpoints (you did save all of the viewpoints, right?), calling Make2D, retouching the missing lines, scaling it and trying to align it with the original, erasing the old item and trimming/extending/reconstructing the surrounding line work to make it all good. If that isn’t enough to make you break into a cold sweat, then you haven’t understood the problem. Then the supplier calls a week later and tells you that hitch is no longer available…
Then there’s the stuff outside of the model space: Parts tables, title blocks (work on that is coming along well), export of BoM to Excel. I’ll have to come back to those as I have (paid) work to do.
Chassis 17Feb11a.pdf (992.8 KB)