Keyboard shortcut – keyboard layout mac 15.7.2

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Hi there,

happy Rhino Version 8 (8.25.25328.11002, 2025-11-24). I’m just wondering today — I tried to get back to my old shortcut layout, or at least I’m trying to. I know the new shortcut options are a bit of a mess, and using the mouse is simply too slow.

Task:

Option + L (align left)

Option + P (align top)

Option + Ö (align bottom)

Option + Ä (align right)

Problem:

In the shortcut preview, pressing Ö shows up as ;, so the layout is not detected correctly.

I changed the OS language and keyboard layout multiple times, and also switched Rhino’s language (I used to work with English as system language, now changed to German, etc.), but still Rhino always interprets Ö as “;”.

So my question: How can I fix this? Why doesn’t Rhino detect the correct keyboard layout (at least in the shortcut menu)? is there any workaround. happy you happy rhino.

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Does this ticket seem like the same issue?

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hi Callum Sykes – it might be or sounds like the same issue behind. – thank you.
And if I’m reading it correctly, no one is working on it.
So I had to figure out which keys are the same on the keypad across all languages and use those — because keypad number pad arrows, ä ö ü, and numbers aren’t supported. I find it hard to
believe I’m the only one used to – using shortcuts.

happy rhino.m

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Still not fixed :frowning:

If you read the post there is a workaround for it

Not optimal but gives you the function you need at least

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Even though it’s not detected correctly, when you try and use the shortcut by pressing the same keys you used in the editor, do those keys work?

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hi callum – thank you for asking. I’m trying to figure this out.or help a bit.

01 It’s not related to using an internal (laptop) or external keyboard. Both behave the same way — either they work or they don’t in the same manner.
02 Common keys across different keyboard layouts are not a problem. The Y ↔ Z switch between EN and DE works “correctly” in the way you ask.
03 Option + L (displayed as Option + ; )does not work when I press Option + ;.

It feels like the OS keyboard layout is right referenced in the “normal” Rhino like command line etc., but because of a deeper change (or special saved in settings-Scheme__Default.xml) in the shortcut settings, the OS reference to the keyboard layout is not being registered.

happy rhino.

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Hi Marc -

The question that Callum asked is if the key combination that you use works anyway, even though it looks like different keys are registered.
-wim

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Hi Wim — sorry, I thought I had already answered this question.
Yes and No.

NO: Shortcuts that use characters which are not part of the EN layout — for example:
Option + Ö
displayed as Option + ;
do not work — neither as Option + Ö nor as Option + ;.

YES: Shortcuts that are common across keyboard layouts and/or located on different key positions, such as:
Option + Z (on the DE layout)
displayed as Option + Y (referenced to the EN layout)
do work when pressing Option + Y (on the DE layout).

I just found that:
Option + ß (next to 0 on the DE layout)
displayed as Option + - (in the EN layout)
works when I press Option + - (next to . on the DE layout).

I hope this makes it clearer.
The keyboard layout referenced in the Shortcut Editor might be the EN layout by default — whether it is actually set that way or not.
That would explain the behavior.
happy rhino.m

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@wim & @CallumSykes also, thank you very much for following up and checking.

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I’ve got a ticket for this and I will fix this at some point, I’m sorry that your shortcuts are restricted at the moment!

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