# Is there anyway to reduce a rhino file that won't load at start up?

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953>\
**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Tags:** filesize, vray, mesh, rhino6, reducemesh\
**Created:** [April 27, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953 "2020-04-27T08:29:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![jmtan97](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/jmtan97/32/217827_2.png) [@jmtan97](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/jmtan97)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/1 "2020-04-27T08:29:28Z")

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Someone please help!!!  
I knew my rhino file was getting huge and was starting to lag, so I started turning a lot of the meshes into proxies and deleting things that I no longer need in the scene.

However, my filed of 114MB that used to open decently is reduced to 96.5MB and won’t open at all anymore! I made a lot of changes that aren’t backed up on a separate file.

Is there anyway to reduce the size of the file without needing to open it???

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/2 "2020-04-27T09:09:05Z")

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Hi - what happens when you try to open that file?  
Also, do you have the `Create backup (*.*BAK) files when saving or exporting` option enabled?  
-wim

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**Author:** ![jmtan97](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/jmtan97/32/217827_2.png) [@jmtan97](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/jmtan97)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/3 "2020-04-27T09:20:12Z")

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Yes, I do! But, I can’t seem to open any of the files. I even have an older file I was using a couple hours before I renamed and saved another copy that won’t open either. I get stuck on a black loading page, until it grays out unresponsive. Nothing goes past this screen for me.

 ![Capture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/b/6/b64482919599a070d65b6ff8dca675587e81e152.png)

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/4 "2020-04-27T09:21:48Z")

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Hi - what happens when you try to launch Rhino in safe mode and then open a file?  
-wim

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**Author:** ![jmtan97](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/jmtan97/32/217827_2.png) [@jmtan97](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/jmtan97)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/5 "2020-04-27T09:31:34Z")

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I didn’t think about that! I just tried it and unfortunately, I am stuck on an unresponsive page again.

 ![safe mode](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/uploads/default/original/3X/a/3/a392f1ff7ff51bc8dd86fc1f958b53fb89b547e5.png)

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**Author:** ![wim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/wim/32/747482_2.png) [@wim](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/wim)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/6 "2020-04-27T09:53:04Z")

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Hi - is it possible to post such file? You can upload it on this page if you want: [https://www.rhino3d.com/upload](https://www.rhino3d.com/upload)

Make sure to copy the link to this thread in the `Comments` field.  
-wim

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**Author:** ![jmtan97](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/jmtan97/32/217827_2.png) [@jmtan97](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/jmtan97)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/is-there-anyway-to-reduce-a-rhino-file-that-wont-load-at-start-up/100953/7 "2020-04-27T09:58:56Z")

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Yes, I can! Just uploaded it. Thanks!