Cursor lag on Bootcamp

Rhino Rhino for Windows
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Hi All,

I’m not so good with computers, but I love Rhino and have been using it for over ten years now. I recently got a new mac book pro. I use it with bootcamp as for my job I need to go back and forth between PC and Mac a lot. I’m experiencing a cursor lag as well when I’m drawing in layouts and snapping dimensions / moving viewports. I notice it sometimes in model space as well. I;ve turned off antialiasing and GPU tesselation, but I haven’t seen any improvement. Any tips when this problem is seen with the AMD Radeon Pro 5500M? Thanks.

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Hello -

Please run the SystemInfo command in Rhino and copy/paste the results here. If GPU tessellation makes no difference, please leave that box checked.

-Pascal

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Rhino 6 SR26 2020-5-26 (Rhino 6, 6.26.20147.06511, Git hash:master @ 7788f6214ee9335d5793cc6177985a1c745e663b)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-05-26
License details: Cloud Zoo. In use by: j.p.buonocore ()

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-OU15QAN

Hybrid graphics system.
Primary display: DisplayLink USB Device (Unknown) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).
Primary OpenGL: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M (AMD) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 11-13-2019 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.13571 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL 19.30.03.05 26.20.13003.5002

Secondary graphics devices.
DisplayLink USB Device (Unknown) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: None
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60
Driver Date: 11-13-2019
Driver Version: 26.20.13003.5002
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8176 MB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros 6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

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These are the settings if the box is checked.

There seems to be a minor improvement with it unchecked, but it’s not fixing the problem entirely.

Rhino 6 SR26 2020-5-26 (Rhino 6, 6.26.20147.06511, Git hash:master @ 7788f6214ee9335d5793cc6177985a1c745e663b)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-05-26
License details: Cloud Zoo. In use by: j.p.buonocore ()

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-OU15QAN

Hybrid graphics system.
Primary display: DisplayLink USB Device (Unknown) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).
Primary OpenGL: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M (AMD) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 11-13-2019 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.13571 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL 19.30.03.05 26.20.13003.5002

Secondary graphics devices.
DisplayLink USB Device (Unknown) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 4-16-2020 (M-D-Y).

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: None
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60
Driver Date: 11-13-2019
Driver Version: 26.20.13003.5002
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8176 MB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.26.20147.6511
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros 6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

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Hello - thanks, I see two things that might be worth poking at -

  • Does it behave any differently without the Display Link hooked up?
  • Does it behave any differently if you disable Vray (Options > Plug-ins page) and then close and reopen Rhino?

-Pascal

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I need the display link in order to use my monitors / reduce eye strain. I tried working on the same model without them and it didn’t make a difference. I will try to disable Vray now

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Hi Pascal, thank you so much for your help. However, there isn’t a significant improvement in performance after executing your suggestions.

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Hi Pascal,

There actually is significant performance improvement for whatever reason while modeling, but the same lag is happening while drawing, snapping dimensions, or moving viewports in the layout area.

John

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Hi John - the other thing to do that I can think of is to update the video drivers - yours don’t seem that old but I would do that anyway and see what happens - I’ve found in the past that even re-installing current drivers sorts things out sometimes.

-Pascal

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Hello boys,

is there any development? I do aswell have performance issues and as I figured from multiple chats, there is complex problem with performance of RH6.

My PC (32GB RAM, AMD FX 8350 4GHz x 8 cores, GTX 1060 6GB) is not as high end as three years ago, but it is still capable of almost everything. That means everything except running RH6 smoothly.

Every driver is up to date. Rhino is up to date. Vray is up to date. I have disabled GPU tessellation. I have disabled vertical sync.

When I run _testmaxspeed on heavily simplified model (purged all materials, only basic geometry of 29MB model), I reach 72,68 (!!!) seconds! (With materials test reached 84,16 seconds). When I do the same (meaning same model, same angle, same everything, except I have kept materials) on RH5, result is 12,81 seconds. When I run RH 6 in safe mode, nothing changes.

I do have problems with muddy cursor aswell of course. None of my attempts of fixing that succeeded, only workaround I have found is turning off SmartTrack (which I dearly miss every second of work) and reducing snaping points to bare minimum you need, fow your work. I would welcome any advices to either of the problems.

Last question lays like this, how is possible, that functional program breaks up so much? I mean, RH 6 worked just fine when I bought it, I had created very large files (up to 800 MB) which ran smoother than my 29MB model right now with everything updated. As for now, I am very desperate. Only realistic solution is to switch back to RH 5, but for some reason, when working in RH 5 with file created in RH6, there is infinite plane at Z coordinate 0 under which you can’t see… Every model I created has components under this plane, I would have to destroy my coordinate system for that…

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Apart from V-Ray any reason to not do your modelling work with the Mac version of Rhino 6?

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One more thought, is it possible for another software to cause this kind of problems? I mean, it does not really makes any sence since RH 5 works much better than RH 6, but I came across some comment, that avecto software slows down Rhino. I do not have such a program, but I have ton of other programs…

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Well, I do need V-ray and I do not have Mac. (Or am I just stupid and I can run mac version under windows?)

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You posted in a Bootcamp thread - that is a Apple product to run Windows on a MacOS device…

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Oh Dang, wrong thread then, my apologies. I do not know the term, never came across bootcamp. I ll copy paste to the previous thread here: Rhino 6 Performance Issues