Closing Standalone Rhino crashes Revit with Rhino Inside

So I’ve been noticing a lot of Revit crashes recently, which seemed random at first. However, this morning I realized that they are actually reproduceable.

For me, Revit will crash if I do the following:
1- Open any version of Revit, and launch Rhino Inside. Open the Rhino window and the Grasshopper window.
2- Launch a new Rhino window (standalone/ not Rhino inside, just vanilla Rhino 7).
3- Close the standalone Rhino instance.
4 - Revit crashes

Are other people seeing this as well? I can ask my IT department to reinstall any/ all of the programs to see if it helps (not sure if it would or not). But I would also be happy to do a screen recording or submit logs, if it is helpful to development.


What’s your setup? Run SystemInfo in the Rhino command line.

As well as the About info in Rhino.Inside.Revit ribbon. Thanks

From Rhino Inside:

From Rhino 7 SystemInfo

License type: Commercial, build 2022-10-09
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 63Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP  - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
  Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 10-7-2021 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
  Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 4-20-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 512.59
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
  Anti-alias mode: 4x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 4-20-2022
  Driver Version:
  Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
  Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
  C:\Users\mbreau\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\BIM360FileLockerForRhino\1.0.0\BIM360FileLockerForRhino.rhp	"BIM360FileLockerForRhino"
  C:\Users\mbreau\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\EleFront\4.2.2\ElefrontProperties.rhp	"ElefrontProperties"
  C:\Users\mbreau\AppData\Roaming\Proving Ground\Semantic\Rhino7\Semantic.rhp	"Semantic"
  C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\LadybugTools\1.36.99\Ladybug.RH.Loader.rhp	"Ladybug.RH.Loader"
  C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\Pollination\1.1.3\Pollination.RH.Loader.rhp	"Pollination.RH.Loader"
  C:\Users\mbreau\AppData\Local\Programs\Enscape\Bin64\Enscape.Rhino7.Plugin.dll	"Enscape.Rhino7.Plugin"	0.0.22290.1357

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit UI"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp	"IronPython"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Users\mbreau\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\PanelingTools\2021.3.2.446\PanelingTools.rhp	"PanelingTools"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp	"Grasshopper"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	7.23.22282.13001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	

From Grasshopper (let me know if there is a better way to do this…)

Thanks Matthew,

Lets update the video driver for the NVIDIA RTX A3000 Laptop GPU Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 4-20-2022.

Also ensure these settings are applied.

Next can we update or remove the enscape for testing purposes (from Rhino & Revit)

Absolutely, I’ll aim to test more tomorrow and get back to you.

I’ve also experiencing issues as discribed above. Has there been any resolution to this?

I haven’t heard anything else on this.

Do you have any of these particular plugins installed as well?

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I had a hunch it was related to Enscape, and it seems like that is correct.

My first troubleshooting step was to uninstall Enscape, and now I cannot seem to reproduce the crashing issue.

I will try updating drivers and such, and then try re-installing Enscape and test further.


I have ElefrontProperties.rhp installed. Is this a known issue?

Paul, We are thinking it might be something to do with licensing (if enscape is ruled out). There aren’t many things that both a standalone Rhino and RiR instance share that could cause the behavior.

@Matthew_Breau1 Can you repeat this if Rhino Standalone is opened first? What is your license environment? (Lan, Zoo, Standalone). Thanks.

I experienced a similar issue and I have another very certain crashing situation is that if I paste a component(with internalised data normally) from the standalone rhino grasshopper into RhinoinsideRevit grasshopper, Revit will crash immediately.

I have Enscape installed too, haven’t tested without it.

Let me know if you have any ideas, thanks


Removing the Enscape Revit Addin resolves this issue, still unsure if this is happening in the current Enscape addin or just previous versions.