Calculating Pen View Unusually Slow

Rhino
1

Hi everybody,

I’ve been having this problem for awhile now and can’t seem to resolve it. I’ll go to generate a pen view, and it takes FOREVER if it works at all. Usually the models aren’t very complex and generate on a different machine in seconds. The command line freezes at “Computing technical drawing data…”

My drivers are up to date, any thoughts on what causes this?

My system settings are as follows:

Rhino 7 SR31 2023-6-15 (Rhino 7, 7.31.23166.15001, Git hash:master @ 850d276b2d59d7e51843939e4cf674b356bcd354)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-06-15
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 7-12-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 536.67
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-12-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3667
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\SimLab\Plugins\SimLab PDF From Rhino\SimLabPDFExporter.rhp “SimLab PDF Exporter”
C:\Program Files\Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino 6\SnSPro_Rhino6.rhp “Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Jon\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\AMDDenoiser\0.5.3\AMDDenoiser.Windows.rhp “AMDDenoiser.Windows” 0.5.3.0
C:\Users\Jon\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\ProRender\1.0.1.0\ProRender.Windows.rhp “ProRender” 1.0.1.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

2

Can you share a file that exhibits this slowness please?
The smaller the better.

I can’t tell if it’s a file based problem or maybe plug-in related.

Thanks

3

I’ve attached a 3DM of a simple bar stool that refuses to generate a Pen view on my machine.

Stool_Pen.3dm (2.7 MB)

4

Maybe 0.5 seconds here to go into Pen display.
Your file settings seem fine so I’m guessing it’s related to your plug-ins.

In Rhino Options > Plug-ins, change the list filter at the top to Plug-ins that do not ship with Rhino.
Disable all of them.
Close and restart Rhino.
Open the Stool file and go into Pen display mode.
Assuming it is fast, re-enable the plug-ins, one by one, restart, and see which one is causing the problems.

Any luck?

5

Turned off all plug-ins not shipped with Rhino, same issue. I’m currently waiting for it to generate, it’s been 5 minutes so far.

6

Is it any better if you disconnect the second monitor and restart Windows?
I’m wondering if both monitors are using the same resolution and scaling settings…

Since you have an Nvidia gpu, I’m wondering why you have the AMD denoiser installed. This isn’t involved in this issue since you’re not raytracing.

7

I tried with a single monitor, same issue. The AMD denoiser was a relic from when this machine had an AMD card, maybe there’s a driver conflict happening somewhere? I really appreciate all your help!

8

I’ve also assumed that your Pen mode is set to default settings. If not try resetting to defaults.

Does Technical display mode have the same issues?

Have you tried this in the V8 WIP?

9

Same issue with Technical Display Mode. I’m installing the WIP right now and will let you know if I have the same problem.

10

If you run SystemInfo again, you aren’t getting any of those extra plug-ins to show up. Is that correct?

I just want to eliminate any possibility that these plug-ins are involved.

11

So I tried using the Rhino 8 WIP and uninstalled all previous Rhino installations. This seemed to do the trick and now the views are generating in seconds instead of minutes. There must’ve been some sort of conflict.